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1 minute ago, allquixotic said:

Respect to Milone. 5 IP, and all he gave up was a solo dinger to a guy who looks like he could do that against any pitcher in baseball right now.

I won't expect him to go 6, but would be delighted if they try it, with a guy warming in the pen just in case.

I agree completely, I was worried that he was losing it at the beginning of this inning, but he came back and got out of the inning. However we should have A replacement ready.

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milbest77
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It’s almost like this was never expected to be a playoff team and they’re regressing to the mean...

allquixotic
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Wish granted. The best possible outcome there for the O's is Davis only makes one out. Unless the owner or front office are making him play Davis, Hyde should be fired for putting him in the lineup ST

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It’s coming from Angelos. They don’t pay people to sit at home. 

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5 minutes ago, scOtt said:

I don't think Brandon Hyde would tank a game on purpose if his family was being held hostage.

I agree. But I think he would play Chris Davis if ordered by Angelos. It's not like he made a typo in the roster and meant to play someone else; he played Davis on purpose.

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I agree. But I think he would play Chris Davis if ordered by Angelos. It's not like he made a typo in the roster and meant to play someone else; he played Davis on purpose.

I don’t think he wants to lose, But playing Davis is not a winning move. It’s possible he’s being forced to do so, but he is doing so, and if I were him I would be screaming at management every single day. Even if winning isn’t the issue there’s still no reason to play Davis, because his at bats and playing time should go to one of our future pieces. Give him his money and send him home.

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2 minutes ago, allquixotic said:

I agree. But I think he would play Chris Davis if ordered by Angelos. It's not like he made a typo in the roster and meant to play someone else; he played Davis on purpose.

The only reason I ever defend playing him... IF he's ever going to help at all, you have to play him some to keep him sharp to ML pitching. They're not going to release him, and can't send him down so you have to keep him ML ready at least. MINIMUM ABs but he has to get a few.

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The only reason I ever defend playing him... IF he's ever going to help at all, you have to play him some to keep him sharp to ML pitching. They're not going to release him, and can't send him down so you have to keep him ML ready at least. MINIMUM ABs but he has to get a few.

But he isn't ever going to help at all.

I mean, how much worse can a guy look up there?

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But he isn't ever going to help at all.

I mean, how much worse can a guy look up there?

I know. and with a 28 man roster you could sit him indefinitely... Hyde may have a directive to at least play him some. Or just plain showing a vet a little respect. Right or wrong...

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1 minute ago, scOtt said:

The only reason I ever defend playing him... IF he's ever going to help at all, you have to play him some to keep him sharp to ML pitching. They're not going to release him, and can't send him down so you have to keep him ML ready at least. MINIMUM ABs but he has to get a few.

This really smells like a sunk cost fallacy to me. Not you; I mean, if the Angelos family and Elias feel that they can't release him because of the money they're paying him, it's an instance of the sunk cost fallacy.

They're paying him, one way or another. That's just reality. But why on Earth would you pay someone to have a negative WAR? Why wouldn't you want to put the best possible product on the field?

There's like, a 0.0000000000001% chance that Davis will ever be replacement-level or better again, unless he's allowed to take PEDs with impunity, or does exactly that and doesn't get caught.

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I know. and with a 28 man roster you could sit him indefinitely... Hyde may have a directive to at least play him some. Or just plain showing a vet a little respect. Right or wrong...

And he made a heluva nice play last night! If Seve could catch...

Maybe woulda saved that game.

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3 minutes ago, Philip said:

I don’t think he wants to lose, But playing Davis is not a winning move. It’s possible he’s being forced to do so, but he is doing so, and if I were him I would be screaming at management every single day. Even if winning isn’t the issue there’s still no reason to play Davis, because his at bats and playing time should go to one of our future pieces. Give him his money and send him home.

Because of my point of view of the type of person/ballplayer (as in a TEAM FIRST GUY) I thought Chris Davis was ..... Put me in the room with management and Davis and I walk up to Davis and say "I see you as a team first guy" and leave the room . 

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