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To me, Hunter Harvey never looked that good this year.    Velocity was good but movement seemed flat, and secondary stuff almost non-existent.    His ERA was good until allowing a 3-run homer yesterday (only two runs were earned), but he just hasn’t looked as good.   Fewer strikeouts, more hard contact, less late life on his pitches.   

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1 hour ago, Frobby said:

To me, Hunter Harvey never looked that good this year.    Velocity was good but movement seemed flat, and secondary stuff almost non-existent.    His ERA was good until allowing a 3-run homer yesterday (only two runs were earned), but he just hasn’t looked as good.   Fewer strikeouts, more hard contact, less late life on his pitches.   

To me, his health was what I was after. I'll watch him again next year. 

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He has a total of 14.1 ML innings.

when comparing this year to last year, he threw more strikes (both years he has been above average) and missed almost the same numbers of bats.

His P/PA were way down this year.  I wonder if that was an effort on his part to try and get outs more efficiently w/r/t pitch count?

 

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17 minutes ago, wildcard said:

So what you guys are saying is the SSS is only meaningful when you are evaluating it.  Not when I do.

No.  I don’t think this year’s SSS is all that meaningful, nor was last year’s.    I’m just giving my impressions of how he looked, not trying to draw any conclusions about what it means for the future.    And I wish we had a bigger sample to discuss, but we don’t.   

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4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

No.  I don’t think this year’s SSS is all that meaningful, nor was last year’s.    I’m just giving my impressions of how he looked, not trying to draw any conclusions about what it means for the future.    And I wish we had a bigger sample to discuss, but we don’t.   

So my thoughts on SSS  will be just impressions from now on.

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5 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I agree. 

Some folks think he should be considered untouchable in trade talks and I don't know why.

He looks like a useful piece, when healthy, but he didn't look like an overpowering weapon out there.

Is it really useful to talk about trade chips and untouchables when we here can't even figure out if the guy is going to be healthy for 20 straight innings one day?  If someone says they wouldn't trade Harvey, well, okay, nobody's really asking.

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3 hours ago, wildcard said:

So my thoughts on SSS  will be just impressions from now on.

Another thing I’ll say about this: it’s one thing to look at a relatively young, inexperienced player and give impressions based on watching them in an SSS.    It’s another to get excited about a player who over a short period of time has exceeded his typical performance over a much longer period.    And I am not saying that short term performance never signifies long term improvement or growth.    But often, in that situation, a hot streak is just a hot streak. 

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