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Stotle
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Hi all -- hope you enjoyed the first two days of draft. By my count Orioles could have up to $2.3MM available and certainly at least $1.7MM.  Some of the higher-profile names have pulled their names f

Moose Milligan
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Marcelo Mayer has a punchable face.  He will fit in with Boston.

ThomasTomasz
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Peter isn’t involved right now and look no further than our involvement in the J2 market as evidence of that.   As for the Orioles being no closer to contention……..lol.  I have a whole lot more c

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1 minute ago, interloper said:

Reminder: Elias is going to trade for pitching. That's what the Astros did and that's what we'll do. You take safe position player picks that will produce, and you package them for stud pitchers. 

The guys who have pitched significant games in the Astros rotation this year:

   -- 1 draftee (McCullers)

   -- 1 free agent (Odorizzi)

   -- 1 guy traded for (Greinke)

   -- 4 international signees:  Urquiddy, Garcia, Valdez, Javier

The draftee and the 4 international guys were acquired while Elias was there;  the key guys traded for Greinke were drafted while Elias was there.   So Elias has a big hand in the building of the current Astro rotation.   But only one of those guys was traded for.

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3 minutes ago, interloper said:

Reminder: Elias is going to trade for pitching. That's what the Astros did and that's what we'll do. You take safe position player picks that will produce, and you package them for stud pitchers. 

I assume you mean that the O's will trade for pitching prospects, because if you are talking about established pitchers you have to deal with the fact that pitchers don't want to play in Camden Yards and will not sign here long-term unless you pay a premium.  But trading for prospects poses its own difficulties.  The team trading a prospect knows a lot more about the player's health and development than the team acquiring the player, creating potential for adverse selection.  I'd rather that the O's develop their own arms.

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2 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

4th round is about to begin. I suppose that Cowser could be less overslot than we thought and/or that some overslot will be going to the previous two picks who are college sophomores. Hopefully we will get more clarity with this pick.

Doesn't an "overslot" have to be someone who is ranked higher than their slot?  At least on MLB.com, everyone the O's have picked has been ranked below their slot.  I know that publicly available lists aren't the be all and end all, but at least they represent an unbiased estimate of market value.    If a college sophomore is the 120th ranked player, why does it make sense to pick him 70th and pay him more than slot value just because a sophomore has more leverage?   

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7 minutes ago, SteveA said:

The guys who have pitched significant games in the Astros rotation this year:

   -- 1 draftee (McCullers)

   -- 1 free agent (Odorizzi)

   -- 1 guy traded for (Greinke)

   -- 4 international signees:  Urquiddy, Garcia, Valdez, Javier

The draftee and the 4 international guys were acquired while Elias was there;  the key guys traded for Greinke were drafted while Elias was there.   So Elias has a big hand in the building of the current Astro rotation.   But only one of those guys was traded for.

Fair. I think we also will rely on international signees and free agents, as well as drafts a bit, for our pitching. People are freaking out like Elias is some idiot who thinks our pitching is in great shape. Obviously there's a plan here, let's see how it plays out. 

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    • Too Tall
      Kyle Bradish 2024

      By Too Tall · Posted

      How many times has an Oriole rookie tried to establish himself while also dealing with being Mooooore than just a rookie. I think Cowser will be fine and I hope patience prevails. Stats aside, I see something. I mean in all his struggles - ups and downs - that "fun" personality prevails. Gotta root for that - right? MOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
    • Sports Guy
      Grayson Rodriguez 2024

      By Sports Guy · Posted

      He definitely overthrows at times.  To lefties, it’s normally the high and outside overthrow and to righties it’s normally the non competitive high fastball. But overall, he’s really pitching at a high level.    Part of the reason offense is down is because of arms like Rodriguez.  
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      By bpilktree · Posted

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      Colton Cowser 2024

      By Say O! · Posted

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    • SemperFi
      Kyle Bradish 2024

      By SemperFi · Posted

      That's nice but it's a "straw man"argument if I ever saw one.  I'd wager Pete Gray would grade as elite on OAA/DRS but the fact was he only had one arm..... There is no measure other than the "eye test" for accuracy and frankly IMO he's been poor.  He has a strong arm but his last two throws to the plate from short LF and CF (I think) missed by 30 feet on either side of the plate!!  Getting to the ball is important but if you can't hit a cut-his throws tend to sail-how many times have we seen Mateo/Gunnar have to reach for throws then reset....  We saw the other night against Toronto guys are going to run (even slow, chubby ones) against Cowser until he shows enough accuracy to shut them down-and until he does he will continue to give up advances at a rate that erodes the benefit of his coverage skills.   IMO the critical components of an "elite" or plus OF are anticipation, coverage, arm strength, and accuracy.  He's plus on three and hopefully the accuracy will improve as the game slows for him.   
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      Anthony Santander 2024

      By wildcard · Posted

      I 2nd that.
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      Kyle Bradish 2024

      By Moose Milligan · Posted

      Had to check to see if this was the Bradish thread for a sec. 

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