Pedro Severino among 3 outrighted to Norfolk

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

3 minutes ago, Orioles0615 said:

Man its sad that almost half the 40 man roster would lose to a AAA team

And it’s been that way for several years now. 

They would have issues against AA teams too. 

[webbrick2010]

If they are looking to open slots to protect prospects, why is DJ Stewart still on the 40 man?

Is there some rule that says he can't be released?

[Matt Bennett]

2 hours ago, nevadaO said:

I get what you mean, but I feel that with all the young rookie pitchers we'll be bringing up it makes more sense to help the confidence of those pitchers that they can throw a breaking ball in the dirt by accident and know it's going to get blocked as opposed to watching a wild pitch/passed ball go by the catcher and thinking, "Oh no worries, he'll get me back when he comes up in 2 innings."

Also, defensive minded doesn't exactly equal "putrid offense."

Did our perform better under Wynns than Severino? I don’t know where to look this up but I actually think it was the opposite. 

I could provide the same sort of anecdotal evidence that pitchers prefer to pitch with the lead and therefore would benefit more from a catcher that can hit and contribute to the lineup. 

At the end of the day: Offensive Value + Defensive Value = Overall Value. Overall Value determine’s a players’ worth. You pick the better player every time. 

[Chuck A]

2 hours ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

I wouldn't be against bringing back Wieters for one last ride, but is he still physically capable of playing catcher at this point of his career. Plus how much bat speed has Wieters lost since 2019. 

I think even if Severino could be brought back at a relative bargain that Elias is ready to move on and bring in a catcher with better skills behind the plate. 

You mean like being able to close his glove?  Damn that is so irritating to watch his laziness defensively.  Grrrr.

[SilverRocket]

I would be happy to bring Severino back as a backup for around major league minimum. I don't expect any team to give him near $1.8M again.

[Philip]

5 minutes ago, SilverRocket said:

I would be happy to bring Severino back as a backup for around major league minimum. I don't expect any team to give him near $1.8M again.

 We can almost certainly find someone better on defense for major-league minimum. I wouldn’t mind giving the job to Maverick Handley If he shows OK in Spring training, but there’s lots of glove-only guys available now or soon.

[Big Mac]

38 minutes ago, Philip said:

 We can almost certainly find someone better on defense for major-league minimum. I wouldn’t mind giving the job to Maverick Handley If he shows OK in Spring training, but there’s lots of glove-only guys available now or soon.

Maverick Handley only has 365 MiL PAs, none of which are above High-A ball, where he has hit .201 with a .610 OPS.  He should not even remotely be in consideration for a major league job out of spring training.  As you noted, there are plenty of guys available for league minimum who can play adequate defense.

If we do go with Handley, we should consider DHing for Handley rather than the pitcher. 

[Philip]

5 hours ago, Big Mac said:

Maverick Handley only has 365 MiL PAs, none of which are above High-A ball, where he has hit .201 with a .610 OPS.  He should not even remotely be in consideration for a major league job out of spring training.  As you noted, there are plenty of guys available for league minimum who can play adequate defense.

If we do go with Handley, we should consider DHing for Handley rather than the pitcher. 

I don’t disagree with anything you said, I was just throwing the name out there is a possibility. He has a reputation for superb glove work.

I think what’s going to happen is hat Mike is going to designate a waiver wire monitor, with the single task of claiming every catcher that comes available.

By the time we hit Spring, we will have gone through several, and will have chosen the shiniest bauble in the bunch.

[jamalshw]

18 hours ago, Philip said:

I don’t disagree with anything you said, I was just throwing the name out there is a possibility. He has a reputation for superb glove work.

I think what’s going to happen is hat Mike is going to designate a waiver wire monitor, with the single task of claiming every catcher that comes available.

By the time we hit Spring, we will have gone through several, and will have chosen the shiniest bauble in the bunch.

I agree. Our catching will be waiver fodder to start the season. I think we basically go into 2022 with a pair of defense-first back-up catchers getting paid around minimum and splitting the work and trying to earn the back-up job for once Adley is promoted. At that time, one of the two will be released and the other stays on as the primary backup. We probably sign a few catchers to minor league deals going into spring training to save the 40-man spots during the winter, two earn an extended look for the first month of the year and one ultimately sticks as the backup. 

[interloper]

On 11/4/2021 at 12:46 PM, webbrick2010 said:

If they are looking to open slots to protect prospects, why is DJ Stewart still on the 40 man?

Is there some rule that says he can't be released?

First round draft pick with options left. Cheap. Injury-prone ML COF group, so he acts as depth. Also, why release him now when there are plenty of easier decisions first? It's a long offseason, more guys will get cut. 

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, interloper said:

First round draft pick with options left. Cheap. Injury-prone ML COF group, so he acts as depth. Also, why release him now when there are plenty of easier decisions first? It's a long offseason, more guys will get cut. 

Keep in mind that Webbrick has taken every chance to slight Stewart literally since he was drafted.  I mean it, you can go back to the thread on draft night and Webbrick was there, and he hasn't let up for an instant in the years since.

It's kinda impressive in an unsettling way.