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I looked at Voth a little closer in statcast after watching him his debut. His fastball has a little above average vertical movement and his curveball actually has plus movement on both horizontal and vertical movements. The biggest change I see is that he was throwing his cutter much more, but he leaves that pitch way too often on the middle of the plate. He was throwing it as much as his curveball but with the Orioles in his debut, he threw just two, one of which was a crappy 91

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I posted above a Washington Post article that is literally titled "Why the Nationals’ Austin Voth experiment lasted as long as it did".

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Basically, but every executive thinks that they are the smartest in the room and will be the one to fix the guy who is unable to take full advantage of his talent, and nobody elucidates that stereotyp

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Add rutschman to that bust list too

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1 hour ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

Add Cal Ripken to the bust list.  He hit about .100 for his first month of ML experience, so he was obviously a bust.

Not even comparable. Ripken was 20 when he came up, Rutschman 24.5. Isn't the whole point of drafting a college player that they are supposed to be much more refined?

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2 minutes ago, amdcpus said:

Not even comparable. Ripken was 20 when he came up, Rutschman 24.5. Isn't the whole point of drafting a college player that they are supposed to be much more refined?

Yes we should cut him now after 50 at bats.  Bring this post up again after he has 200 at bats please.

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4 hours ago, NCRaven said:

Tony's going to have to work some Statcast magic fo rme to like this pick up.  Really don't mind DFA'ing Sedlock, but I'd want something better.  I see nothing to like.

I don't have a clue on what they see. High spin guy I guess, but his expected numbers are awful, so it's not like he's been unlucky. Doesn't throw all that hard either. Seems like a headscratcher.

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11 hours ago, Frobby said:

I hope Sedlock goes unclaimed.  I’ve always had a soft spot for him.  As to Voth, he’s definitely a longshot to provide any value, but yaneverknow.

If Sedlock goes unclaimed he has to join Norfolk.  This is the first time he has been outrighted so he can't refuse the assignment.

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14 hours ago, SteveA said:

Him or Nevin, I suppose.   

I think they keep Vespi and option either Nevin or Baker.

Note:  Watkins about ready to come off the IL.   He will probably be optioned to Norfolk and pitch in their rotation to keep him stretched out if needed for recall.

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19 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Why why Sedlock the guy you chose to cut?  He showed some potential in his stint up here.  
 

There wasn’t someone else with a lower upside and worse long term potential you could have cut?

Fair point. Is Austin Voth clearly a better multi inning relief option than Sedlock?  

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Diplan, Lakins, Lowther, Nevin, Owings, Sulser and Reyes…those guys are all players I would have cut before Sedlock and likely others too.

Just doesn’t make sense.  Is this really a “I didn’t bring you into the organization” tie breaker decision?  
 

Like how can you keep Diplan over Sedlock?

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Diplan, Lakins, Lowther, Nevin, Owings, Sulser and Reyes…those guys are all players I would have cut before Sedlock and likely others too.

Just doesn’t make sense.  Is this really a “I didn’t bring you into the organization” tie breaker decision?  
 

Like how can you keep Diplan over Sedlock?

What’s so good about Sedlock?   He’s 27, has a career MiL ERA of 4.48, 5.04 in AAA, and allowed 5 runs in 3 innings in his one major league appearance.   Diplan is 25, MiL ERA of 3.82, AAA 2.78, 4.04 in the majors.   Neither is exactly Cy Young, but I certainly don’t see a clear case that Sedlock is a better option than Diplan.  

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5 minutes ago, Frobby said:

What’s so good about Sedlock?   He’s 27, has a career MiL ERA of 4.48, 5.04 in AAA, and allowed 5 runs in 3 innings in his one major league appearance.   Diplan is 25, MiL ERA of 3.82, AAA 2.78, 4.04 in the majors.   Neither is exactly Cy Young, but I certainly don’t see a clear case that Sedlock is a better option than Diplan.  

He also missed a lot of bats in that debut.  That was encouraging.

And I’m not saying Sedlock is good.  But I would rather see him get more chances.  We have seen Diplan up here and he is cannon fodder.   Perhaps that’s all Sedlock is too but give him more of a chance.

Also, those stats you are talking about happened with Sedlock as a starter.  Make him a reliever and maybe things get better.  We already know Diplan is nothing as a reliever.

But there are also other names that could/should be cut. I like Lowther but no way he gets claimed right now.  Owings is terrible.  Lakins is nothing.  The list goes on.  All of these guys are players Elias acquired.  He seems to give those guys more chances.

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