Trey Mancini Traded to the Astros

[Spy Fox]

Two top 10 prospects? Including one from a highly ranked system in TB?

Even with injury, that seems like a great return...

[owknows]

If you're gonna trade him... that's what you trade him for...

Young arms to put back on the early part of the conveyor belt.

Sustainability.

[TheWall]

I'm baffled by the folks in this thread saying the return is lackluster. Way more then I was expecting. 

[Just Regular]

10. Chayce McDermott, SP

Drafted: 4th Round, 2021 from Ball State (HOU)

Age	23.9	Height	6′ 3″	Weight	197	Bat / Thr	L / R	FV	40

Tool Grades (Present/Future)

Fastball	Slider	Curveball	Changeup	Command	Sits/Tops
55/60	50/55	50/55	30/40	30/45	92-95 / 98

McDermott, whose brother is a pro basketball player, had a relief look at Ball State, albeit an exciting, potentially high-leverage one if he were to experience a velocity spike in pro ball. His arm action is long but loose, he gets down the mound well, his fastball has carry, and his curveball has depth and bite. So far in pro ball, developed as a piggyback starter the way Houston tends to, McDermott has not only held serve as a starting pitching prospect but increased his chances of staying there, largely because he has better-than-anticipated command of his two breaking balls. He’s throwing his curveball a little bit harder than when he was at Ball State (from 74-75 mph on average to 77). While his changeup is a distant fourth offering, McDermott’s two breaking balls have enough demarcation to present different looks to hitters, and they play very well with his riding fastball. While his fastball command and pitch efficiency are still in a fringe area for a starter, he’s made enough progress to start projecting him as one.

[Moose Milligan]

I'm also stoked that the guy we're getting is about to get TJ.  

 

[Yardball85]

 

[DrinkinWithFermi]

Just now, Roll Tide said:

Seth Johnson Tampa’s #6 and Chayce McDermott Houston’s #12

That's a pretty damn solid return for 2 months of a 1B/DH OPSing .750, IMO (even after factoring in Johnson's TJS).

Well done , Mike, and good luck, Trey!

[Morgan423]

In case anyone's curious, we're still going to see Trey quite a bit this season, we haven't really played the Astros yet.

August 26, 27, 28:  At the Juice Box.

September 22, 23, 24, 25: At OPACY.

[Fiver6565]

2 minutes ago, billw76 said:

So 2 guys who are 23 and only at high A, and one is set to have TJ surgery.

I didn't expect much for Mancini on his own, and figured he'd be packaged with a reliever, but this is a pretty underwhelming return.

I feel like age matters less when it comes to pitchers.  If either of them comes up and is a 26-27 year old rookie, that makes him Tyler Wells.  Not so bad....

[Just Regular]

6. Seth Johnson, SP

Drafted: 1st Round, 2019 from Campbell (TBR)

Age	23.5	Height	6′ 0″	Weight	200	Bat / Thr	R / R	FV	50

Tool Grades (Present/Future)

Fastball	Slider	Curveball	Changeup	Command	Sits/Tops
55/60	50/60	45/50	40/45	30/50	92-97 / 99

Johnson didn’t have great college numbers at Campbell in 2019, but he intrigued scouts and analysts alike as an athletic former middle infielder who was new to the mound and already showing some intriguing pitch data. Few teams in baseball do a better job of turning pitching projections into reality than the Rays, who selected Johnson with the 40th overall pick and then watched him put up a strikeout rate of nearly 30% in his 2021 full-season debut. Johnson’s stuff has taken a step forward since turning pro, and he now sits 95-97 mph with a fastball that while impressive on the radar gun, doesn’t feature much in the way of life. He gets impressive spin on a pair of power breakers, but the upper-70s curveball features far more movement than the mid-80s slider. His changeup is still rare, but has improved to average since signing. Johnson tends to throw strikes, but doesn’t locate within the zone as well as one would like. Still, this is an athletic, well-coordinated raw pitcher with considerable big league potential in a role that remains very much to be determined.

[interloper]

2 minutes ago, dtk9119 said:

Diaz has his chance now. Hope he stays healthy and sticks. And Stowers is next up.

This feels like "here's your shot before we likely DFA you this off-season in the ensuring 40-man crunch". 

With Hyde always saying they're right-hand heavy, it's pretty weird that Stowers didn't get the call. 

[interloper]

Two high upside high(er) risk guys, is about exactly what I expected to get for Trey. Elias always seems to get fair value at least. 

[Just Regular]

1 minute ago, Moose Milligan said:

I'm also stoked that the guy we're getting is about to get TJ.  

 

Buying a Hurt Pitcher can be a path to higher value in the far distant future.

At first blush, McDermott and Johnson both seem like shot to be okay bulk guys mid-decade.

[Flash- bd]

Wow, far better return for Trey than I was expecting.

Makes me wonder what Tate and López could fetch. Wish we had shopped them too...

[interloper]

Just now, Flash- bd said:

Wow, far better return for Trey than I was expecting.

Makes me wonder what Tate and López could fetch. Wish we had shopped them too...

There's still plenty of time.