“Orioles big game shopping & most believe it's exclusively rotation”

[Sports Guy]

3 minutes ago, interloper said:

So #3 pitchers have to have ERAs in the mid-3's now? All #1s must have like low 2s? Taillon is perfectly fine #3. 

Perfectly fine and strong are 2 totally different things.

[interloper]

1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

Perfectly fine and strong are 2 totally different things.

Not to me they aren't. He was the Yankees #2 starter, basically, all of last year. 

Taillon would be a nice upgrade for the roughly 3rd spot in the rotation. And in many other teams' rotations.

[DrinkinWithFermi]

21 minutes ago, interloper said:

O's are in on Taillon sounds like. I like Bassitt more, but Taillon is younger and cheaper. He would appear to fulfill Elias' "1-3 spots in the rotation" requirement as a strong #3. But it would not be very exciting. 

Taillon is not a strong #3. He is as average as average can be, but he is going to get paid as though he was actually good.

100 ERA+ in 2021. 100 ERA+ in 2022. And he is probably going to get like 4/$70 million when the dust settles.

Meh.

[jabba72]

27 minutes ago, interloper said:

O's are in on Taillon sounds like. I like Bassitt more, but Taillon is younger and cheaper. He would appear to fulfill Elias' "1-3 spots in the rotation" requirement as a strong #3. But it would not be very exciting. 

Yeah, Roch is confirming interest on Taillon in his blog. Still, Taillon looks like he's in a great market this year. Far from a sure thing the O's sign him.

[interloper]

4 minutes ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

Taillon is not a strong #3. He is as average as average can be, but he is going to get paid as though he was actually good.

100 ERA+ in 2021. 100 ERA+ in 2022. And he is probably going to get like 4/$70 million when the dust settles.

Meh.

Well, regardless, I absolutely hope we aim higher than Taillon. 

[DrinkinWithFermi]

2 minutes ago, interloper said:

Well, regardless, I absolutely hope we aim higher than Taillon. 

Completely agree. I want at least one legitimately above average starter.

[eddie83]

 

[Sports Guy]

Just now, eddie83 said:

 

Teams can’t help themselves from being stupid.

They are paying until he is 41!!!

[dzorange]

9 minutes ago, interloper said:

Well, regardless, I absolutely hope we aim higher than Taillon. 

I'm skeptical that that will be accomplished through Free Agency with the way the market is heading. I think if the O's are going to get a true intriguing talent for the rotation, it's going to be in the form of a trade.

[DrinkinWithFermi]

2 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

 

Oh...dear 

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Teams can’t help themselves from being stupid.

They are paying until he is 41!!!

Stupid?

They are making money right?

They can afford it right?

 

[Yardball85]

5 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

 

That's a looooong time...

[Just Regular]

I believe ERA+ works off the league average - just for the sake of conversation I'll say 100+ ERA is good for a starter.

The relieverization of an ever bigger share of all pitching is a thing - the feature of the Taillon type guy is the volume they deliver their performance at.

Taillon was comfortably in the top half of SP last year, so he probably deserves about a B among MLB-wide #3 starters.    How is Pablo Lopez any different than him?

[maybenxtyr]

4 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

 

Wow! There's really nothing else to say. Obviously there's a ton of money being made regardless of the market size. Certain teams have to start running out of excuses for spending nothing year in and year out.

[Sports Guy]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Stupid?

They are making money right?

They can afford it right?

 

Yes stupid