“Orioles big game shopping & most believe it's exclusively rotation”

[Can_of_corn]

59 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

Not in theory ….For real. If Mike is truly in charge he’s been given a budget. 
 

Does this convince you?

 

 

 

Guys getting signed will convince me.

[Roll Tide]

23 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Guys getting signed will convince me.

Yes …. But I think we can agree that when he’s said stuff so far it’s been spot on. The middle of the league payroll was 137 million. That number differs from the average being $115 million. 

With the increase in revenue from the tv deal and the $30 million Disney windfall those numbers should rise 10-20 percent.

I’m betting he has a budget somewhere around the league average. Will he spend all that? The trade additions will almost certainly increase the payroll. 

I think we will be surprised once the chips start falling. I’d make extending Adley now while he’d be motivated to do it.He made $700,00 this year and isn’t a free agent until 2029.

How about a 10 year deal beginning in 2023?  at say 10 years $163 million.?

1- 5 million

2 - 7.5 million

3- 10 million 

4- 12.5 million

5- 15.5 million

6- 17.5 million 

7- 20 million

8 - 22.5 million

9- $25 million

10- 25 million 

Certainly you can adjust the early years to make it more attractive if needed. Say pull $5 million off of each of the last three years and make it a bonus paid now.

Edited December 2, 2022 by Roll Tide

[DrinkinWithFermi]

2 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

Not in theory ….For real. If Mike is truly in charge he’s been given a budget. 
 

Does this convince you?

 

 

 

SP Michael Wacha- $14 million

OF Mitch Haniger- $12 million

C Jorge Alfaro- $3 million

Generic RP- $6 million

There, I have significantly raised payroll.

[jabba72]

O's are looking at the SS's according to mlbtraderumors.

Orioles Checking In On Free Agent Shortstops

By Darragh McDonald | December 2, 2022 at 9:52am CDT

This offseason features a group of shortstops often referred to as the “Big Four,” which consists of Carlos Correa, Trea Turner, Xander Bogaerts an Dansby Swanson. While they have been connected in rumors to most of the high-spending clubs around the league, Jon Heyman of The New York Post reports that the Orioles have checked in on them. Heyman adds that it’s more likely they invest in starting pitching since their need at shortstop isn’t terribly strong and there are other teams involved, but the interest is noteworthy nonetheless.

[Frobby]

9 hours ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

"Welcome to Birdland, Kyle Gibson!"

I kid, I kid...

 

...I hope 

I’d probably rather have Gibson than Lyles.  He’s qualified for the ERA title five years in a row.  But, no that’s not who I’d want as our winter headliner.  

[RZNJ]

What exactly is “checking in”?    

[Roll Tide]

3 hours ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

SP Michael Wacha- $14 million

OF Mitch Haniger- $12 million

C Jorge Alfaro- $3 million

Generic RP- $6 million

There, I have significantly raised payroll.

If you are shopping in the dumpster (Haniger) you might as well go internal. I don’t hate Wacha as the second guy ….if he’s the main I believe we’d be better off bringing Lyles back. That catcher is fine but I prefer Casali. Why waste $6 million on a generic RP as Elias is good at identifying gems.

Your proposal is a half hearted measure and significantly wastes payroll. If that is their best effort we should sell off Santander, Mullins, Urias, Mateo etc.

I don’t think Elias will waste money on half measures. The moves you are suggesting will just be adding to the problem. Poor OBP, Replace 180 IP guy & With a 130 iP guy, and 2 pieces of scrap.

[Roll Tide]

9 minutes ago, jabba72 said:

O's are looking at the SS's according to mlbtraderumors.

Orioles Checking In On Free Agent Shortstops

By Darragh McDonald | December 2, 2022 at 9:52am CDT

This offseason features a group of shortstops often referred to as the “Big Four,” which consists of Carlos Correa, Trea Turner, Xander Bogaerts an Dansby Swanson. While they have been connected in rumors to most of the high-spending clubs around the league, Jon Heyman of The New York Post reports that the Orioles have checked in on them. Heyman adds that it’s more likely they invest in starting pitching since their need at shortstop isn’t terribly strong and there are other teams involved, but the interest is noteworthy nonetheless.

I keep saying Elias is in on Correa

[Roll Tide]

6 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

What exactly is “checking in”?    

Dumb wording ….Elias knows the cost. I’m sure he’s not dumb enough to think he’s going to get a bargain.

Just a BS rumor more than likely.

Edited December 2, 2022 by Roll Tide

[Frobby]

4 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

Dumb wording ….Elias knows the cost. I’m sure he’s not dumb enough to think he’s going to get a bargain.

Just a BS rumor more than likely.

It comes from a throwaway line in a Jon Heyman article:  “The Orioles are checking on top shortstops, but with the need less than overwhelming, and bigger market teams involved, it’s more likely they sign starting pitchers.” https://nypost.com/2022/12/01/astros-has-some-justin-verlander-hesitation-in-mlb-free-agency/

Hardly worth getting excited about.  

[Sports Guy]

This stuff is getting dumb: 

 

[Jim'sKid26]

5 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

This stuff is getting dumb: 

 

I think Eve is the heir apparent for GM when Elias is ready to take his victory lap. She's the bomb!

[owknows]

48 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

I keep saying Elias is in on Correa

I keep saying that Elias is going to corner the market by having ALL of the shortstops.

[LookinUp]

59 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

What exactly is “checking in”?    

From the O's perspective, it's due diligence. Possible it could turn into something, but due diligence nonetheless.

From the Agent's perspective it another "competitor" to point to in negotiations.

From Heyman's perspective it's clickbait.

 

[interloper]

"Guys who fit our ballpark" - any idea if the context was hitter or pitcher? Obviously she could mean both.