Jump to content

Orioles acquire Ryan O’Hearn


Brian88

Recommended Posts

42 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

O’Hearn is below average. Frazier is below average. McCann is below average. Practically everyone they picked up this off-season outside of Givens and maybe Gibson are below average. 
 

Do you disagree?

I’m not sure what we’re calling “average” here.   I think McCann is likely to be above average for a backup catcher.  Frazier could be an average 2B if he bounces all the way back; I’m not counting on that and am expecting him to be somewhat below average but not terrible.  

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Moose Milligan said:

O’Hearn is below average. Frazier is below average. McCann is below average. Practically everyone they picked up this off-season outside of Givens and maybe Gibson are below average. 
 

Do you disagree?

McCann is below average as a backup? 
I can’t argue about O’Hearn but he in once again the 26th man. Frazier is not a bad player. 
 

Look at how much playing time Odor, Nevin, Chirinos had last year. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

Signing cheap, MiL FAs for AAA depth is fine.

Making them largely your only moves and give them real at bats and trying to sell us on them is entirely different.  
 

Thats what you aren’t getting.

If the Os had signed Abreu and Eovaldi and traded for one of the Marlins pitchers and were dedicated to the young players starting,  these deals would barely get mentioned and no one would care we signed them. 
 

But when it is your whole offseason, for the most part, it’s an issue.

I don’t care what spin the Orioles push. 
 

I can separate wanting more and seeing in that in a specific area they are better. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think what I personally find most upsetting about this offseason is that since mostly everyone here is disappointed (thus far) with the team’s “moves”, we have continued to incessantly bicker and nitpick with one another. 

I just want to get to the part soon where something good happens and/or we start to consistently win games. I just can’t be bothered to argue with anyone about Ryan freaking O’Hearn, because it’s not worth it. 

  • Upvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, eddie83 said:

McCann is below average as a backup? 
I can’t argue about O’Hearn but he in once again the 26th man. Frazier is not a bad player. 
 

Look at how much playing time Odor, Nevin, Chirinos had last year. 

McCann isn’t average as a backup C. He’s probably below average if they try to play him anywhere else. 
 

Still though, an upgrade at backup catcher, while a good thing, doesn’t move the needle a whole lot. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

McCann isn’t average as a backup C. He’s probably below average if they try to play him anywhere else. 
 

Still though, an upgrade at backup catcher, while a good thing, doesn’t move the needle a whole lot. 

McCann could end up being one of the best backup catchers in team history and he’s backing talent wise the best catcher in team history. 

Hopefully they don’t experiment too much with McCann at 1B/DH and the O’s find a solid bat for that role. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Yea saying he played a bunch last year is so ridiculous.

How much is “a bunch?”   He started half the games (24 of 46) during the period he was on the team, and got into 12 other games as a pinch hitter or defensive replacement.  I would have liked to see him play more, but I’d agree with eddie83 that he wasn’t “rotting on the bench.”   

Anyway, what is the point we are considering now?   As I understand it, the question is whether adding another legit bat would take at bats away from Stowers.   I think the answer is, it almost inevitably would.  How many at bats would he get as the roster is presently constructed?   
 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, Frobby said:

How much is “a bunch?”   He started half the games (24 of 46) during the period he was on the team, and got into 12 other games as a pinch hitter or defensive replacement.  I would have liked to see him play more, but I’d agree with eddie83 that he wasn’t “rotting on the bench.”   

Anyway, what is the point we are considering now?   As I understand it, the question is whether adding another legit bat would take at bats away from Stowers.   I think the answer is, it almost inevitably would.  How many at bats would he get as the roster is presently constructed?   
 

Well, considering he should have been brought up 2 months prior, I don’t care if he played half the games here..not to mention they kept benching him vs lefties despite his success vs them in pro ball.

They handled him stupidly last year and this year is trending towards something similar, which is really funny considering their over the top obsession with lefties.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Well, considering he should have been brought up 2 months prior, I don’t care if he played half the games here..not to mention they kept benching him vs lefties despite his success vs them in pro ball.

They handled him stupidly last year and this year is trending towards something similar, which is really funny considering their over the top obsession with lefties.

I agree Stowers should have been brought up sooner (I don’t know about two months, but certainly immediately after Mancini got traded), and should have played more once he was up.  It’s too late for that now, so my question is, how much will he play this year?   

Don’t bother answering me here.  I’m going to start another thread on playing time allocation.  
 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Posts

    • I said that was the date reality (everybody gets serious) begins.  All the players actually available won't be determined until the teams on the bubble decide whether or not they are going to invest in the rest of the season.  With the current Wild Card setup, that doesn't happen until the last minute.
    • You gave the arbitrary date of July 19th.
    • I don't have a Baseball America subscription, but you are able to read an in depth analysis on Coby Nayo's batting metrics here https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/coby-mayo-jackson-holliday-headline-10-statcast-standouts/ Interesting stuff.   He looks like a guy we should consider holding onto. 
    • It's not the next 18 days, it's the next 30 days less the AS break, roughly 15% of the season.  My point is that a lot will change in the last two weeks before the trade deadline.  It's a little early to call a radical seller's market where Tanner Scott is the clear front-runner.
    • Unnecessarily Socratic response, FRobby. There is no position more important to the Orioles right now than backup catcher as crazy as that sounds.  The incumbent is hurting the team with his bat.  Basallo will some day soon create a great split responsibility with Adley and another big bat at least vs RHP. 2B?  All eggs are in the Holliday basket, but if he can't stay healthy this year and Mateo falls off as in the past, 2 great backup options exist 1) Norby or 2) Westburg moves back to 2B and Mayo is promoted to play 3B. CF? Of all CFs in the game I'd trade him for Judge (if I could be sure the contract would not screw up the chance to sign Gunnar) and I'd trade him even up for Jackson Merrill who is 21, from Baltimore area, and hitting well for the Padres, but is another LHB.  I wouldn't trade him for Duran, for example, who is 2nd in WAR among CFs at 1.4, has good OPS, but is approaching age 28 despite 4 years of team control.  No way I trade him for Robert as I have detailed elsewhere.  I think the Orioles are better off for now, using some combination of Cowser, Mullins, and Hays in CF rather than trading Basallo for anyone else not named above that comes with a significant price tag. Corner OF spots, DH, 1B are jammed now with players/prospects who can hit (Cowser, Kjerstad, Mountcastle, Santander, O'Hearn, Stowers).  No additions needed. 3B?  Westburg is having a great year and Mayo is ready and should be promoted which puts pressure either on 3B to move Westy to 2nd or the already jammed corner OF/1B/DH group, but he is a much-needed RHB.
    • I think you have to add Grayson to this list. 
  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...