Jump to content

Gibson has a new pitch; Adley praise


Sports Guy

Recommended Posts

7 hours ago, sevastras said:

My question is if this is something he is working on on his own(or a third party training/coaching program) or if this is a result of the Orioles system and analytics?  

From Steve Melewski’s Closer Look at Kyle Gibson’s Late-Season Strikeout Surge that he put out about a month ago:

 

“I also did something that early in the year I probably would have told you that was crazy," Gibson said. "But I tweaked my slider. And turned it into a pitch that moved more horizontally to the left, and actually went down less. So, you guys have probably heard the term a sweeper slider. I was throwing a bullpen before my start late September against the Braves and Caleb (Cotham), the pitching coach, came up and said, ‘Hey, what do you think about messing with your slider today?’ That’s been my best pitch my whole career, so it was a little interesting conversation, but I said ‘Yeah, let’s try it.’

“Four days later or three days later I’m throwing it in a game and I probably got more swing-and-miss on sliders, even more so than I normally did, than I probably have in a while. So, I think those two things, to me, along with using my pitches better in the month of September at times, probably led to the uptick in Ks.”

He’s not kidding about getting swings and misses in that start against Atlanta, when he actually allowed five runs over five innings. He fanned nine and got 25 whiffs on 51 Atlanta swings, according to Baseball Savant. And while baseball-reference.com credits him with 22 swings and misses, either number is easily a season-best for him.

 

To be clear, Gibson primarily credited a largely unexplained uptick in velocity for the increased swing-and-miss, but it does look like he’d been dabbling in the “sweeper” game even before joining up with the Wizard. 

  • Upvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, e16bball said:

“I also did something that early in the year I probably would have told you that was crazy," Gibson said. "But I tweaked my slider. And turned it into a pitch that moved more horizontally to the left, and actually went down less. So, you guys have probably heard the term a sweeper slider. I was throwing a bullpen before my start late September against the Braves and Caleb (Cotham), the pitching coach, came up and said, ‘Hey, what do you think about messing with your slider today?’ That’s been my best pitch my whole career, so it was a little interesting conversation, but I said ‘Yeah, let’s try it.’

That's about the same thing Holt was telling Spenser Watkins in David Laurila's recent feature on him.

Maybe Chris Holt and Caleb Cotham are just 3D-printed androids from Pitching Skynet.

As for batting averages, temporarily...

 

Edited by Just Regular
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Posts

    • LOL.. IMO with a possible World Series championship on the line, that would be a professional malpractice type move. Especially with how things turned out last year trying to do it on the cheap at the deadline. IMO the stakes are too high this season to consider settling for bargain basement type shopping. There’s absolutely no credible reason to do that. Plus we are on the verge of messing up some guys’ careers like Stowers, Norby. You can’t just bury guys at AAA forever and never give them opportunities. And you can’t keep selling guys like Gunnar and Adley (who are ultra competitors) on “Well, we might really try next year. Maybe?” They don’t get these seasons of their careers back. And as much as I or any other poster may want to win, those guys on the field want it a WHOLE HECK OF A LOT MORE. IMO the org has to pick a course and do the right thing by the players (both those on the roster and those who belong in the Big Leagues).
    • No you don’t need a star but Vavra is below replacement level.  Norby may hit enough to justify his defense but the Os aren’t likely to go with poor D up the middle.
    • I have concerns about Holliday. I know SSS and the O's put a lot of pressure on the kid. T-shirt day, his first appearance. Really?? Who the F planned that? Still, I saw nothing that impressed me, hitting, fielding or arm. I know all the scouts had him one or close to it. I sometimes wonder if their ratings had anything to do with his father's success. So, the O's send him back down to fix him. I think this kid lived baseball and was probably given the best coaching on a near daily basis by his dad, players and coaches on the Cardinals. He's young and may be great. Sell high. Mayo...everyone looks at the O....where to hide him?  No way 3rd. This site is pretty tough on players that play poor D.
    • Passan drew this link between Dombrowski and Elias in his big piece for this week.     That's the basic question before us as Elias has excelled setting it all up...he's playing the highest stakes games now.      Adley's 3.5 years is perhaps ballpark similar to the timeframe the Phillies' great players remain a championship caliber nucleus.     Adley's final 3 years - unless payroll grows, the opportunity for rosters with Burnes-Santander-Kimbrel level supporting players may shrink a little. It's more about ensuring a window doesn't close without a team maximizing its opportunity. In this regard, the Phillies and Orioles are quite similar, though Dombrowski's counterpart in Baltimore, Mike Elias, gets a little more leeway because the Orioles' period of contention is longer than any team's. The Phillies' isn't short, by any means, but every year Bryce Harper (31 years old), Trea Turner (31), J.T. Realmuto (33), Zack Wheeler (34) and Aaron Nola (31) age is a year closer to an inevitable downturn. That's when, as an executive in charge, you push. And when it comes to a willingness to look past what a computer system suggests is proper value and potentially overpay for talent, nobody matches Dombrowski. Robert fits the bill and fills a need. 
    • Since I currently have Basallo 3rd, guess I have to be consistent and say he would go first.  I think Mayo and Basallo have the chance to be absolute impact power bats while I think Holliday has a chance to be a very good OBP guy with some pop.  I'd only say Basallo because he has more risk than the other other two and Orioles seem to be gradually transitioning from catch to 1B (he's basically split time between C and 1B since he was allowed to throw. Saying that, Basallo may have the highest ceiling bat wise of the three.  Mayo is the safest bet because he's major league ready now and has developed that game power now. The arm strength gives him a chance to stay at 3B for a bit but even if he transitions to 1B or RF he'll have value. Holliday hit just .222 in June in AAA but had a .444 OBP because if his ability to draw walks, walks that he might not get with major league umpires until he establishes himself.  Really, I'm not trading any of them, but if I had to, it's Basallo followed by Holliday.
  • Popular Contributors

  • Popular Now

×
×
  • Create New...