Do you want Wacha, and if so, what terms can you live with?

[RZNJ]

2 minutes ago, HakunaSakata said:

Which makes his career 1.31 WHIP even more frightening. 

Well, it was 1.15 last year which is what you'd be betting on.   I don't think it's a good bet, myself but it's possible.   Another guy who can't stay healthy.

[Moose Milligan]

17 minutes ago, HakunaSakata said:

I voted no. Signing Wacha would just be the Orioles trying to save face because of the backlash they've taken for their terrible offseason. I don't think he actually makes them a better team. 

Wacha would continue to create backlash, IMO.  He doesn't make this disaster of an offseason any better.

[btdart20]

I'm ambivalent too.  I don't want to see a 2+ year deal.  But don't care if we sign him to pretty much any type of 1 year deal.  If he signed for $15m, it wouldn't matter to me one bit.  It might be dumb from a fiscal sense, but don't care how it compares to other 1 year contracts from a value perspective.

I don't really think he'll make our rotation better either.  He would make it deeper.  And that's the main "why" for me, depth at the trade deadline matters.  An extra arm to shop/package goes a long way.  

[eddie83]

Just read a piece from our buddy Ken Rosenthal in the Athletic.
-He does say Wacha wants a multi year deal. Speculates he may have to take a one year deal but for more money than Noah S. Was trying to frame Stripling as a comp for Wacha. 
 

-he said the Orioles continue to explore trades for SP. 
-they spoke to Grienke at one point and also looked into possibility of Profar. Not confident in getting either player. 

[sportsfan8703]

2 hours ago, RZNJ said:

Well, it was 1.15 last year which is what you'd be betting on.   I don't think it's a good bet, myself but it's possible.   Another guy who can't stay healthy.

Bingo. We’re not going to sign a pitcher with his injury history to a multi year deal. The lyles deal is the most I see us offering. 

[OriolesMagic83]

I voted for 1 yr/$12 mill.  My reaction to signing Wacha would be meh.  He does make the O's deeper, but this team is not spending $12 mill or anywhere close as a depth signing for the rotation.  Looking forward to spring training so I can stop thinking about all the missed opportunities to improve the team.

[Number5]

Meh.

[waroriole]

I don’t want him taking starts from Hall or another young pitcher. But that definitely seems to be the MO if this FO. 

[BRobinsonfan]

I'd pay him $12 million for a year with an option.  We have the money and you can never have too much pitching.  But if we don't get him I won't loose any sleep over it. 

[Sports Guy]

3 hours ago, RVAOsFan said:

I went with the 1/12 option but I think I would be fine if there was an option year with a buyout kinda like Lyles had last year.

I am surprised with everyone that has been yelling and screaming that we need starting pitching is now not interested in a guy who had a 3.32 era last year and went 11-2.

Just don’t feel he’s a good bet to come close to that and I may rather see Hall get those innings, even if it’s not immediately.

[Going Underground]

Interesting he is the last of the best pitchers still available  3 weeks to Spring Training. Perhaps he wants more then any ream is willing to spend or another issue 

[ThisIsBirdland]

1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

Just don’t feel he’s a good bet to come close to that and I may rather see Hall get those innings, even if it’s not immediately.

I'd rather have Wacha in the fold. Hall needs to cut down on the walks before he's starting games this spring. Hall's upside is obviously there and if he's in a groove during ST and earns a rotation spot, great.

Wacha did well enough last year to be brought in to force Kremer, Bradish, Wells, GRod, Hall and Voth to compete for the other three spots. We'll have injuries and unexpected regression by some of those guys to make the veteran depth worth it.

[tntoriole]

6 hours ago, Frobby said:

Seems like Michael Wacha is the last real possibility for a FA starter acquisition.  He’s rumored to want 2/$24 mm.   Would you sign him for that?  Would you sign him for less?  Or do you not want Wacha at all?

Facts and figures: Wacha is entering his age 31 season.  He is 74-50 lifetime with a 4.05 ERA (99 ERA+).   He was excellent in 2022, 11-2 with a 3.32 ERA (127 ERA+).  He’s a bit fragile and hasn’t thrown more than 127.1 innings since 2018.   His xERA last year was 4.56, way above his actual ERA.

Personally, I’m ambivalent at this point.   I certainly wouldn’t give him two years, and even on a one year deal have mixed feelings.   The guys we have may be as good or better than Wacha.  Really, it’s about whether we need more depth.  

I voted 1 year and 10 or less but 11 would be ok i guess. 

[Jagwar]

I'm guessing he wouldn't accept a minor league deal with a ST invite...

 

[Frobby]

I’m actually surprised how many people have voted that they want Wacha, at least on some terms.   So far as many people have said they’d pay 2/$24 mm as have said they don’t want him on any terms.