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It's just frustrating to have folks go "Why can't Mateo bunt?", "Why can't Hall throw strikes?" "Why can't Mountcastle lay off the slider?" These things are very hard to do.  They aren't just cho

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This^^^^^^^ Plus, he can afford to have 20-pitch inning in relief but that doesn't work as a starter or he'll never get into that 6th inning very often. Hall had a 69% strike rate in relief last

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Inning 1 F8 (1-0) - started with a ball K swinging (0-2) - started with a strike K looking (full count) - started with a ball Inning 2 K looking (full count) -started with a s

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1 minute ago, jabba72 said:

Yes the updated box score says Tate is who pitched the 7th.

It was showing Hall with 110 pitches and 7 IP. 

Thanks for the updates!  Hall going 7 and 110 pitches seemed kind of crazy.

Sounds like Tate didn't have a very clean inning but his velo was up around 93-94.  

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12 minutes ago, emmett16 said:

Tate came in bot 7th.

Flyball left field, BB, bloop to LF, GIDP

Stuff looked pretty good, but not a lot of control.

Started behind to all batters. 

Any thoughts on how Hall looked today? Did you see any of his outing? 

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Any thoughts on how Hall looked today? Did you see any of his outing? 

Gonna watch.  Just finished  work and turned it on in the 6th.  6th he looked OK.  First batter I saw was a BB….so I’ll try to keep an open mind when I start back in 1st. 

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I totally jinxed Hall.  Saw this thread, turned on GameDay, and first thing he did was give up a 2 run homer after several 2-strike pitches.  He was one strike away from a 6 inning shutout.  I’ll still call it a very good outing.  First time he’s gone 6 IP since last July 22.  He only did it once last year and once in 2021 as well.  

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Inning 1

F8 (1-0) - started with a ball

K swinging (0-2) - started with a strike

K looking (full count) - started with a ball

Inning 2

K looking (full count) -started with a strike

Seed RF (2-1) - started with a strike

F8 (3-1) -started with a ball

K swinging (2-2) -started with a ball

Inning 3

6-3 (0-2) -started with a strike *FB 93 jammed him

K swing @ curve (1-2)  - started with a strike

F9 (2-1) - started with a ball (westburg made it look easy)

Inning 4

F8 (2-1) - started with a strike

2-3 (2-2) - started with a strike

K swinging curve - (1-2) - started with a strike 

Inning 5

H GB up middle not hit hard (1-1) - started with a ball

K looking FB (0-2) - started with a strike

Seed to LF (1-0) - started with a ball

3-6 (0-2) - started with strike *didn't field his position very well

2-3 (full count) - startd with a strike

Inning 6

F8 -(0-0) - Westburg easy play

BB (3-0) - started with a ball (looks like he spaced out)

K swinging curve ball - (2-2) started with a ball

HR BOMB - (3-2) - started with a ball - def tired 

K looking (3-2) - started with a ball

 

He looked pretty good.  It looks like he's trying to pitch off his curve and slider.  He ran out of gas in the last inning when he gave up the HR.  Below are some observations.  

*kept looking at left hand.  maybe blister

**trouble throwing CU for a strike

***curve looked good

****slider and curve were thrown for strikes and got a lot of swing and miss

*****worked very very quickly

 

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13 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I totally jinxed Hall.  Saw this thread, turned on GameDay, and first thing he did was give up a 2 run homer after several 2-strike pitches.  He was one strike away from a 6 inning shutout.  I’ll still call it a very good outing.  First time he’s gone 6 IP since last July 22.  He only did it once last year and once in 2021 as well.  

He ran out of gas.  Pitched well overall.  I think he has changed his approach and how he plans to attack hitters. 

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22 minutes ago, emmett16 said:

He ran out of gas.  Pitched well overall.  I think he has changed his approach and how he plans to attack hitters. 

Our flamethrower has become Jamie Moyer.  In all seriousness, this is a positive.  I'm glad he's trying everything he can to develop into a MLB SP.  

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5 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Our flamethrower has become Jamie Moyer.  In all seriousness, this is a positive.  I'm glad he's trying everything he can to develop into a MLB SP.  

I think this would limit his ceiling.  I'm not sure Hall at 92-93 is much more than a back of the rotation guy even if he can command his stuff at the lower velocity.

I don't think you "throttle down" 5 MPH.

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45 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think this would limit his ceiling.  I'm not sure Hall at 92-93 is much more than a back of the rotation guy even if he can command his stuff at the lower velocity.

I don't think you "throttle down" 5 MPH.

I think once he gets some things adjusted and starts landing the FB, he will ratchet it up a bit.  Still misses a lot glove arm side with the FB.   Wasn’t super wild, but very little fastball control.  
 

Or he’s hurt or just on beginning phases of his program.  

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19 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Our flamethrower has become Jamie Moyer.  In all seriousness, this is a positive.  I'm glad he's trying everything he can to develop into a MLB SP.  

Well we don't know if he's intentionally throttling back on velocity or it's something else.  I would argue whatever the reason for the significant and consistent drop in velocity it's not a good thing for him or the O's.  A few years ago, I read scouting reports that believed his raw stuff was even better than Grayson's......and now he's looking like Rom.

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Well we don't know if he's intentionally throttling back on velocity or it's something else.  I would argue whatever the reason for the significant and consistent drop in velocity it's not a good thing for him or the O's.  A few years ago, I read scouting reports that believed his raw stuff was even better than Grayson's......and now he's looking like Rom.

We do know why..the back injury. He talked about it after his outing in the majors.

 

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