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1 minute ago, Tryptamine said:

When people are looking at Cease's ERA you have to remember that he has one of the 4 worst defenses in baseball playing behind him. His ERA would see a fairly significant decline with a solid defense. The WSox have a -102 DRS from 2020-2023, credit to 1908 on another message board for looking that up. 

His FIP for his career is 3.85.  Compared to his ERA of 3.67.   Seems like the bad defense really hasn't had much of an affect on him.

 

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8 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think he'd rather have an excuse not to make a big deal.

Thus far I can't think of a single trade in which I think the team getting the boost clearly overpaid.

Maybe, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that the demands made to the O's are different than to other teams. The O's have the deep pockets, everyone involved is a repeat actor who is interested in setting precedents, and there are players/agents involved.

Does it seem likely that the deal the Astros got for Verlander would have been available to us? Norby + Beavers for 1.5-2.5 years of Verlander? Would Elias say no to that? Or are the Mets/Verlander not giving the O's that option?

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Just now, Pickles said:

MLB.com has him as Phillies #5 prospect with a FV 50.  

Pretty close to Norby territory.  

Ya.  Would not have been thrilled with Norby for Lorenzon, but that is mostly because I don't want Lorenzon.  I wonder if Norby plus could get us EROD. 

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12 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think he'd rather have an excuse not to make a big deal.

Thus far I can't think of a single trade in which I think the team getting the boost clearly overpaid.

I pretty much agree with you that there haven't been many lopsided trades, but the Orioles system is really strong and I wonder if teams are looking for more from them because of that.  

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5 minutes ago, CallMeBrooksie said:

Standing pat with our current starting rotation is certainly a choice... 

A team doesn’t have the best record in the American League on August 1st and have a crappy starting rotation. I agree the Orioles could use another starting pitcher, but I’m not about to trade two top ten or better prospects for a pitcher who might not be a true TOR starter.

Cease might have had his career season last year and will never reach that peak again. Judge him by the body of his entire career. 

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