Jack Flaherty acquired for Cesar Prieto, Drew Rom, and Zach Showalter

[Sydnor]

I’m sure everyone will love this part of the trade.

 

[ChuckS]

2 minutes ago, O's84 said:

Not remotely impressed.  Flaherty is nothing but a back end of the rotation starter.  Guy has a 1.550 WHIP.  There's a real possibility he's our worst starter.

Also a real possibility he’s our third best. I can’t say he’s any worse than Gibson.  Kremer has been inconsistent. I put Flaherty in the same category as those two. 

 

[Greg Pappas]

2 minutes ago, 86this said:

 

Wow... not happy to read this, at all.

[Big Mac]

I think Flaherty is better than a lot of people are giving him credit for but this price seems a little steep to me for two months of him. 

[Alasdaire]

Happy with how the front office handled this. Starting pitcher was a need. Not a good starting pitcher, literally just any starting pitcher. And they filled it with a guy who has always had arm talent. He's also 13 years younger than the Mets geezers and pitching for his first big contract, so you can dream that Flaherty realizes his potential for one run in October.

I'm a big fan of Prieto. And I admit that the thought of parting with many of these homegrown guys pains me. But Cesar had no path to playing time in Baltimore. Several already unlikely things would have to had happened to other guys for him to be a valuable player for the O's, and even then his value is limited to the (special) hit tool.

Everyone wins here: the O's fill a need without giving up anything of value, the Cardinals recoup value in a lost season, and Prieto gets a chance.

We signed Prieto as an international free agent for significantly below market value. He was the Ted Williams of the (diminished) Cuban league and one of those guys who was going to get seven figures, but apparently there were some hiccups with his defection such that we got him for significantly below market rate. As time went on, he kept hitting, but it became clear that he was completely boxed out by the other prospects. So we basically turned the $600k it cost to sign him into a former first-round starting pitcher for the stretch run. These are the sorts of moves that will keep us relevant over the long term.

As to Rom and Showalter, they're fliers. We have a fair few number of those arms in our system. Sometimes that's what it takes if you don't want to walk away empty handed.

If you want to criticize the front office for not making other moves, then fine. But this transaction in a vacuum was the best of all worlds.

[86this]

Just now, Greg Pappas said:

Wow... not happy to read this, at all.

Me either.  Maybe there's some miscommunication going around.  I think 3 for 1 is a bit much.  I thought Prieto and Rom were good enough.

[oriole]

Just now, 86this said:

Me either.  Maybe there's some miscommunication going around.  I think 3 for 1 is a bit much.  I thought Prieto and Rom were good enough.

I thought Prieto was enough. 

[yark14]

mlbtraderumors is reporting it is Drew Rom, not Showalter...

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/08/orioles-close-to-acquiring-jack-flaherty-from-cardinals.html

I like the deal. (ducks for cover)

[ChuckS]

5 minutes ago, Sydnor said:

I’m sure everyone will love this part of the trade.

 

Just imagine what we would have had to give up for Ed. Think we missed the boat on Montgomery. 

[Since1984]

Jack Flaherty has total  innings exceeding his last 3 years. One concern, unless they move him around the BP with Irvin

[Roy Firestone]

Take out his three worst starts – 10 runs against the Angels on May 4; six runs against the Giants on June 13; six runs against the Nats on June 19 – and Flaherty’s season numbers would be much more impressive.

Whereas he had ERAs of 5.88 and 5.32 in May and June, respectively, Flaherty pitched significantly better in July, when he went 3-1 with a 3.03 ERA.

 

 

 

 

[O's84]

1 minute ago, ChuckS said:

Also a real possibility he’s our third best. I can’t say he’s any worse than Gibson.  Kremer has been inconsistent. I put Flaherty in the same category as those two. 

 

And there is a real possibility that he's our worst.  Which I could live with if Elias had gotten some help in the pen.  Now we have to hope a guy like Hall can come up and help the pen.

[TheWall]

I don't love that we had to give up all 3, but I also don't think you're ever going to love what you have to pay at the deadline. That's kind of the point. 

We needed a starter. Flaherty should help. This is better than doing nothing. 

[25 Nuggets]

Whadd'ya know, it ended up being Jack Flaherty after all.  Adding to the end of the rotation, not the front.

Did not imagine Prieto nor Rom having much future in Baltimore.  None of the top prospects or even B-level prospects were moved.

[tntoriole]

Not a fan .. too much for probably the dreg of starters .. too much sent in return and no bullpen lockdown help

 

Grade for deadline D

Edited August 1, 2023 by tntoriole