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4 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Losing blows no matter what the outcome of the other team is.

As for Texas, they decided to spend big first and now they will fill in prospects/young players behind them.

They should be in good shape for a while.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

In 2-3 years I think it's likely that they're in pretty bad shape.

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If Philly wins, we'll see two of the most heavily FA-built teams out there facing off. 

RANGERS

  • Seager 10/325
  • deGrom 5/185
  • Semien 7/175
  • Gray 4/56
  • Eovaldi 2/34
  • Heaney 2/25

PHILLIES

  • Harper 13/330
  • Turner 11/300
  • Wheeler 5/118
  • Castellanos 5/100
  • Schwarber 4/79
  • Walker 4/72
  • Kimbrel 1/10

A lot of solid looking contracts there. Hopefully the O's become less FA-phobic and can sign some similar successes. I don't expect any megadeals in Baltimore but costs up to the Wheeler deal should be on the table. 

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30 minutes ago, Pickles said:

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

In 2-3 years I think it's likely that they're in pretty bad shape.

I doubt it. The money isn’t as big a factor as you like to make it be especially with teams that can spend it and can draft/develop well.

They will have a decent amount of young players making very little money for a while.

Seager should remain very solid if he can stay healthy.

In guessing the Semien contract will suck soon enough and who the hell knows what they get out of DeGrom but the only have 4 players on the books after 2024 and one of those 4 drops off after 2025.

They will have a lot of cheap talent and even if Semien and DeGrom are zeroes(which I doubt) that is still only about 20% or so of the payroll. If guys like Langford and Jung are big surplus values, which is very likely, it helps to make up for that.

Now, if those guys suck or can’t stay healthy and the big contracts suck, that’s when you have the problem but to say they will be in bad shape, as of today, is just false. The money is a sunk cost and they can absorb it.

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The new all-time postseason boards over at FG are interesting to poke around.

Adolis now having cleared 50 PA has the 10th best wRC+, tied with Babe Ruth for the moment.      The watering down of the regular season, the big PA minimums generally only get cleared by modern players, and are a reminder how few opportunities the all-time greats got in the World Series only times.

70 PA is the Hank Aaron cutoff - he's 2nd.      Brock 213, Aaron 204, Arozarena 199

100 PA: Arozarena 199, Dykstra 195, Ruth 195       The 100 PA filter includes Billy Martin in the Top 30!     You lose Babe Ruth by 200 PA.

200 PA: Bryce 172, Beltran 169, N. Cruz 159, Pujols 158, Yordan 157

300 PA: Pujols 158, Reggie 152, Big Papi 147

Tino Martinez and Kenny Lofton are the bottom of the list for the couple dozen guys ever with that many tournament PA.       Hopefully we see Gunnar, Holliday and Basallo on these boards by 2040.

 

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53 minutes ago, LookinUp said:

Man. If those two can re-find the magic they had at Vandy, they'll be a load. 

That seems like a longshot.  Rocker was so so before having TJ surgery last May and Leiter repeated AA and had an ERA over 5 for the second consecutive year.   

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On the aesthetics of regular vs. postseason, before we learn the outcome of tonight's game, would you say the Diamondbacks have had a better year than the Orioles?

The two World Series teams its probably no argument, but I think I think the '23 Orioles have had the 3rd best year out of the 30.     

Ancient history now, but a few weeks ago, ARZ qualifying to the six best teams in the National League was iffy.

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2 minutes ago, Just Regular said:

On the aesthetics of regular vs. postseason, before we learn the outcome of tonight's game, would you say the Diamondbacks have had a better year than the Orioles?

The two World Series teams its probably no argument, but I think I think the '23 Orioles have had the 3rd best year out of the 30.     

Ancient history now, but a few weeks ago, ARZ qualifying to the six best teams in the National League was iffy.

I would not say they had a better year.  But they had a better October.  

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