Completely Off The Wall “Would You” Hypothetical

[George Zuverink]

Brewers Making Progress On Extension Talks With Top Prospect Jackson Chourio
 

This guy is rated just one notch under Holliday. He hasn’t turned 20 yet, seems to be open to an extension, and is considered a better than average CF. OH consensus seems to be Jackson  would not be open to an extension and that our IF talent glut is greater than OF. Milwaukee has an OF glut, but needs IF help. Would you trade Holiday, Kramer, and Norby even up for Courio and  Burnes?

[LookinUp]

5 minutes ago, George Zuverink said:

Brewers Making Progress On Extension Talks With Top Prospect Jackson Chourio
 

This guy is rated just one notch under Holliday. He hasn’t turned 20 yet, seems to be open to an extension, and is considered a better than average CF. OH consensus seems to be Jackson  would not be open to an extension and that our IF talent glut is greater than OF. Milwaukee has an OF glut, but needs IF help. Would you trade Holiday, Kramer, and Norby even up for Courio and  Burnes?

I very much disagree with the bolded above. I think the problem with extensions for any of our young guys is ownership, not the players.

Which means that we likely wouldn't extend Chourio either.

[jamalshw]

3 minutes ago, LookinUp said:

I very much disagree with the bolded above. I think the problem with extensions for any of our young guys is ownership, not the players.

Which means that we likely wouldn't extend Chourio either.

I think it's both ways. I agree that in most cases the Orioles are not seriously pursuing extensions with the young guys, but I do think it would be more difficult to get someone like Jackson Holliday to agree to one, particularly this early, given his father's career earnings are north of $150M so the money doesn't do as much for him and his family as it would a kid from Chourio who (admittedly did get a very nice signing bonus, but still). That said, I don't disagree with your assertion that the Orioles likely wouldn't extent Chourio at this point either. 

 

As to the question the OP posed: no, I don't make that deal. While our infield is more backed up than our OF, I don't think we have a need in the OF. We have Kjerstad and Cowser at the moment with Hays, Mullins and Santander still holding down spots. Norby could very well end up in the OF. And behind them are Beavers, Bradfield, etc. 

Now if it was a top end SP prospect in a similar situation in terms of levels, age, expectations as Chourio I'm more interested. 

[Moose Milligan]

[Sports Guy]

Our ownership wouldn’t sign him to an extension and wouldn’t want to trade for him if he already signed it because it would be too risky to pay someone that money with them never playing in the majors.

 

[George Zuverink]

1 hour ago, LookinUp said:

I very much disagree with the bolded above. I think the problem with extensions for any of our young guys is ownership, not the players.

Which means that we likely wouldn't extend Chourio either.

I understand. the reality that our ownership makes it unlikely anyone gets an extension, ever. I was referring to the additional issues of Holliday having Boras as an agent and coming from the background with money and a lifetime of exposure to the major league clubhouse. That makes it far less likely that he would even entertain an extension at this point in his career.

[George Zuverink]

1 hour ago, Moose Milligan said:

Is that because of what we would be gaining or what we would be giving up?

[Aristotelian]

If Sig and Elias decided they liked Chourio better than Holliday, I would trust it and support it. I really don't have enough info on either guy to make an educated choice myself but on paper the #1 prospect for a close #2 prospect plus a year of a TOR starter is a solid win for both teams. Of course, I highly doubt this comes together.

[Moose Milligan]

45 minutes ago, George Zuverink said:

Is that because of what we would be gaining or what we would be giving up?

I'm just horsing around.  I dunno if I'd do that deal or not, but I'd like to extend Holliday before he comes up like the Brewers are trying to do for Chourio.

[RZNJ]

It’s a very interesting proposal.  I might.  Need to research Chourio a little more.

[OriolesMagic83]

4 hours ago, George Zuverink said:

I understand. the reality that our ownership makes it unlikely anyone gets an extension, ever. I was referring to the additional issues of Holliday having Boras as an agent and coming from the background with money and a lifetime of exposure to the major league clubhouse. That makes it far less likely that he would even entertain an extension at this point in his career.

So do Gunnar and Holliday both have Boras as an agent?  Not that JA was going to ok the money to sign either of them to an extension.

[Malike]

Chourio doesn't have Boras as an agent.

[Malike]

3 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

I'm just horsing around.  I dunno if I'd do that deal or not, but I'd like to extend Holliday before he comes up like the Brewers are trying to do for Chourio.

Only one problem with that, Boras has never signed a client up for a long-term deal before they reached two years of service time. Ever. In 30 years as an agent.

[George Zuverink]

56 minutes ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

So do Gunnar and Holliday both have Boras as an agent?  Not that JA was going to ok the money to sign either of them to an extension.

I’m afraid so.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]