Jump to content

Poll - Would you trade Cowser, McDermott, Norby, and Stowers for Crochet?


Poll - Would you trade Cowser, McDermott, Norby, and Stowers for Crochet?  

143 members have voted

  1. 1. Poll - Would you trade Cowser, McDermott, Norby, and Stowers for Crochet?

    • Yes
      15
    • No
      129


Recommended Posts

Again with the Crochet talk. Are people just glossing over the innings issue, or do you just think it’s not a real issue?  There’s a decent chance that Crochet is ZERO help down the stretch. Yes he’s controllable but who cares about that for THIS season?

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, Fiver6565 said:

Again with the Crochet talk. Are people just glossing over the innings issue, or do you just think it’s not a real issue?  There’s a decent chance that Crochet is ZERO help down the stretch. Yes he’s controllable but who cares about that for THIS season?

There may be a very good chance he wouldn't start a game for the Orioles if they acquired him. I'd say there is a much less than zero chance he would get some time in the pen to finish off the year, do you think he'd help at all this season in the pen?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

20 minutes ago, Malike said:

There may be a very good chance he wouldn't start a game for the Orioles if they acquired him. I'd say there is a much less than zero chance he would get some time in the pen to finish off the year, do you think he'd help at all this season in the pen?

It’s POSSIBLE he helps in the pen, yes. He MIGHT even get a start in the postseason. But why we would we give up valuable assets for ifs ands and buts?  That’s just a poor use of resources.  

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Fiver6565 said:

It’s POSSIBLE he helps in the pen, yes. He MIGHT even get a start in the postseason. But why we would we give up valuable assets for ifs ands and buts?  That’s just a poor use of resources.  

Service Time (01/2024): 3.028  •  Arb Eligible: 2025  •  Free Agent: 2027

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Fiver6565 said:

It’s POSSIBLE he helps in the pen, yes. He MIGHT even get a start in the postseason. But why we would we give up valuable assets for ifs ands and buts?  That’s just a poor use of resources.  

I mean, you do have him for two more years after this season so I'd argue that it's not a poor use of resources.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Service Time (01/2024): 3.028  •  Arb Eligible: 2025  •  Free Agent: 2027

I understand that which is why both of my posts asked about and/or referred to  his usefulness THIS YEAR, as have prior posts I have made on the topic of Crochet. 
 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

There were close to 1k pages of posts in the offseason, across two boards, for the same trade for Cease. Crochet has the extra half season of control and an extra postseason. 

Those threads were about trading Cease, not one specific proposed Cease trade.   In fact, the thread on Soxtalk wasn’t just about the Orioles, but any team trading for Cease.   The threads here that were devoted to a specific trade involved Cowser and Ortiz being packaged.   Not pitchers, not four players.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

46 minutes ago, Malike said:

Trade scenarios always crack me up here. 

OH: We need a guy like Skubal, Crochet, or Miller.

Also OH: I wouldn't trade anyone in the top 15 for them though.

I'd sooner give up Basallo.  At least with Basallo you're not sacking thr MLB roster until 2026.  With Cowser you have to have someone on hand to take over immediately.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

21 minutes ago, Three Run Homer said:

Take McDermott out and I might say yes.

I voted Yes but that's the one piece of the trade I didn't like, including McDermott, but anyways I voted yes. You have to give assets for 2.5 years of controllable pitching.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Hallas said:

I'd sooner give up Basallo.  At least with Basallo you're not sacking thr MLB roster until 2026.  With Cowser you have to have someone on hand to take over immediately.

If I were a betting man I'd bet that the O's trade Cowser/Kjerstad before anyone else. We'll know in a few weeks I guess.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, Fiver6565 said:

I understand that which is why both of my posts asked about and/or referred to  his usefulness THIS YEAR, as have prior posts I have made on the topic of Crochet. 
 

 

They shouldn't just be looking at this season tho right?

What's the 2025 opening day rotation look like right now?

Even if you just slot him in the pen the rest of the season that's value for this season.

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Hallas said:

I'd sooner give up Basallo.  At least with Basallo you're not sacking thr MLB roster until 2026.  With Cowser you have to have someone on hand to take over immediately.

They've been playing Kjerstad in LF and he hasnt looked bad. I'll agree it hurts our depth in CF but Cowser's bat has gone ice-cold. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.




  • Posts

    • They will probably go after Sugano the 35 year old at the end of his career as he is cheaper and no posting fee.  
    • David Ortiz also commanded the strike zone.  He didn't swing at a lot of junk.  He got his pitch or the pitcher made a mistake, he hit it.  Pitchers will let you get yourself out all day if you swing at pitches repeatedly out of the zone.  We need to do a better job of this.  
    • Elias has said that he and his staff are (or will be) making an exhaustive inquiry to identify the sources of this team's underperformance -- which I take to mean not just the playoff defeats, but also the underperformance during the second half of the sentence. Sounds good.  But at the same time, before that investigation has gotten underway, Elias has announced that Hyde will be back next year. I believe many of the criticisms of Hyde's in-game decisions, lack of fire, failure to take action in response to boneheaded baserunning, etc., etc. -- including my own -- have been exaggerated. But Hyde does seem, to me anyway, to have shortcomings as a manager. I really don't know whether any of this team's problems could be alleviated by bringing in a new manager with qualities that Hyde lacks. But if Elias is serious about a top-to-bottom review of the team's weaknesses and ways that those weaknesses might be improved on, shouldn't the manager's stewardship  be among the subjects considered? It appears that Elias intends to scrutinize and look for constructive changes throughout the organization. Except the manager. I don't get it.
    • So where did it go wrong, if it’s tough to pin it on bad swing decisions?  I still think an injury (or multiple smaller injuries) is possible, if not probable. Evaluating the possibility of a hand injury, here are his Statcast numbers from the two weeks prior to and following that incident on June 27: 2022-2023: 37.8% hard hit rate; 88.2 MPH avg. EV; .353 wOBA 06/12 - 06/26: 43.8% hard hit rate; 89.8 MPH avg. EV; .356 wOBA 06/28 - 07/14: 20.5% hard hit rate; 83.6 MPH avg. EV; .214 wOBA Coming into June 27, Adley was hitting the ball harder than he ever had. He was actually hitting it even harder in the week prior to June 27 than what I showed above. After that ball off his hand, those hard contact numbers instantly fell off, in a pretty dramatic fashion. And they never really came back.  07/14 - 09/30: 30.0% hard hit rate; 86.9 MPH avg. EV; .258 wOBA I don’t think it’s quite proof positive that he was playing with a broken hand or that type of thing. But it’s very suspicious that his performance immediately fell off a cliff after getting hit with that foul ball and really never again returned to anything approaching normal for him.
    • Interesting way to frame it.    That said didn’t need much to beat KC at least.  
    • If even remotely healthy they are absolutely WS contenders. 
    • I was trying to recall last year how long it took. How long was it?
  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...