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July 29 - KC vs Tillman & the O's


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Tillman's sporting the flat breezy cap tonight

Brian Roberts - 2B

Adam Jones - CF

Nick Markakis - RF

Aubrey Huff - DH

Nolan Reimold - LF

Ty Wigginton - 1B

Melvin Mora - 3B

Gregg Zaun - C

Cesar Izturis - SS

Chris Tillman - RHP

DeJesus - LF

Bloomquist - RF

Butler - 1B

Teahen - 3B

Callaspo - 2B

Jacobs - DH

Olivo - C

Maier - CF

Betancourt - SS

Greinke - RHP

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