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Does Flaherty and his .519 OPS have a place on this team?

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Tony-OH Hangout Grand Counsel

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Seriously, just cut him now. I really want to rant. Cannot play defense, cannot hit, cannot sacrifice, what can he do other then hold the bench spot?

This is why he needs to play everyday against righties. The more he plays the more the Orioles will be able to evaluate the little things he doesn't do well.

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russ snyder Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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This is why he needs to play everyday against righties. The more he plays the more the Orioles will be able to evaluate the little things he doesn't do well.

He has to get an opportunity to play with Andino being out. I agree, platoon him with Tolleson. It's time to see what he can do.

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Can_of_corn Hangout Grand Counsel

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They've kept him on the team this long, so there's no reason not to play him now and see what happens. Next year, there's a good chance he starts in AAA because it certainly looks like he wasn't ready this year.

And then Whoohoo! The O's got themselves a dime a dozen utility guy for '14!

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With Chavez on this team and Avery in the wings he is redundant. We need another right handed utility player coming off the bench and someone that can offer more offense than Flaherty.

The guy is going to be 26 years old in two weeks, so it is not as if he is a developingyoung prospect that we can expect to get a lot better. He is not a major leaguer. The guy can't hit off speed stuff to save his life. Time to cut our losses.

Flaherty Thanks you for the reverse Jinx Chuck :D

Time to eat some crow Buddy!

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Flash- bd Veteran All-Star

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Chase Utley like?

Haha, Weams, tisk tisk, trying to trap me into saying something stupid!

No, but I think he can be a bit like J.J. Hardy from the left-side with more OBP skills. .700-.775 OPS, maybe touching .800 in his really best years like J.J. last year.

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I wish people would give Buck and DD more credit on things like this. We've been in contention all year and he's avoided numerous roster crunches. There is a reason they have kept him around for so long. There is something they see that they like and we may be starting to see it as he settles in as a reg vs RHP.

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I wish people would give Buck and DD more credit on things like this. We've been in contention all year and he's avoided numerous roster crunches. There is a reason they have kept him around for so long. There is something they see that they like and we may be starting to see it as he settles in as a reg vs RHP.

Honestly, I don't think Buck and DD deserve as much credit as the general board consensus here deserves discredit. Keeping Flaherty on the team was a no-brainer, IMO. (Then again, I do think Duquette deserves credit for acquiring him) The way people have dog-piled on him and generally execrated him on here has been truly baffling to me all year long.

As I said a couple weeks back in this thread:

I don't see why people are so mystified over him staying on the roster. The guy is a potential ML regular. (I think people should take a look at his MiL stats, I have a feeling a lot of the people who hate on Flaherty haven't even done that most basic step)
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I wish people would give Buck and DD more credit on things like this. We've been in contention all year and he's avoided numerous roster crunches. There is a reason they have kept him around for so long. There is something they see that they like and we may be starting to see it as he settles in as a reg vs RHP.

I haven't liked/enjoyed Flaherty's presence on the team. That being said, after last night's HR, I looked back over his stats to see if I could find a justification for his still...being here. Even accounting for the last two games, Flaherty's numbers are awful in almost every conceivable sense.

Splits for the season: .196/.223/.290

Splits for the last 28 days: .235/.257/.412

Splits for the last 14 days: .077/.077/.308

The above numbers are flawed for two reasons: small sample size, and they don't account for the SLG bump he's likely to enjoy based on tonight's homerun. Still, two games does not "an upward trend" make. At least, not one that's any more reliable than the small sample sizes discussed above.

I think keeping Flaherty on the team has been a terrible, difficult-to-defend call on the parts of the powers that be, but hopefully the long run will prove me wrong. The long run isn't here yet, though; thus, Buck and DD don't deserve any credit for keeping Flaherty around...yet.

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