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El Gordo Hangout Grand Counsel

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It seems to me that the LAD's had better do some serious rethinking about their Bedard offers now that the D'backs have Haren. Unless of course they are rebuilding too and will be satisfied with a 4th place finish this year. Andruw Jones ain't gonna do it for them Kuroda or no Kuroda.

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Ethier, Kershaw, & Hu doesn't float my boat. For me, Hamilton is the most talented player being discussed in these scenarios. He's a bit of a gamble because he's been injury prone and because of his problems, but he's got as much talent as anyone and he's already proven himself somewhat at the ML level. Add in Bailey, who's as good a pitching prospect as Kershaw, though I like Kershaw better, and the Cincy deal looks much better to me. Just depends on the third player. I want one high end position player back for Bedard. That would be Kemp if the Dodgers were willing but I guess they aren't. Hamilton fits the bill, and we still get a top end pitching prospect in Bailey.

Going with my gut here, it would begging karma to give the Orioles a hard kick in the family jewels if they make the most important trade in the last quarter-century of the franchise and settle for a crackhead (or ex-crackhead if you insist) in return.

Trust me, I deal with people with issues, worries and problems every day of my life, and I don't mean to sound insensitive to Josh. I'm rooting for him and think it's great that he's living clean and mashing the pelota.

Depending on him him do it consistently for years to come for a team that really can't afford for him to fail? No thanks. I don't want to reading all the "Dohhh. We should've know. What were we thinking?" threads if -God forbid- the brother has a relapse.

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Going with my gut here, it would begging karma to give the Orioles a hard kick in the family jewels if they make the most important trade in the last quarter-century of the franchise and settle for a crackhead (or ex-crackhead if you insist) in return.

Trust me, I deal with people with issues, worries and problems every day of my life, and I don't mean to sound insensitive to Josh. I'm rooting for him and think it's great that he's living clean and mashing the pelota.

Depending on him him do it consistently for years to come for a team that really can't afford for him to fail? No thanks. I don't want to reading all the "Dohhh. We should've know. What were we thinking?" threads if -God forbid- the brother has a relapse.

I have no problem if Hamilton is the third player in a Cinci trade but I wouldn't want him to be the second player for the reasons you state.

Too much risk.

You are 100% right that trading Bedard is the most important thing we have done in years and years.

This is why, I feel, we have to have sure things coming back...Or at least as close to sure things as you can get.

BTW, with AM stressing character so much, would he even want Hamilton?

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I prefer the Dodger deal first. Kemp could anchor CF for years to come.

The Reds deal would be nice also. Votto sounds like a solid run producer at 1st base, and Markakis definitely needs some protection in the lineup.

I'm also glad we are keeping Roberts. He's a gamer who adds star power to the team. That and the fact that I just bought my son an autographed Brian Roberts bat for Christmas!

I am not as optimistic that we are keeping Roberts.

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I have no problem if Hamilton is the third player in a Cinci trade but I wouldn't want him to be the second player for the reasons you state.

Too much risk.

You are 100% right that trading Bedard is the most important thing we have done in years and years.

This is why, I feel, we have to have sure things coming back...Or at least as close to sure things as you can get.

BTW, with AM stressing character so much, would he even want Hamilton?

My gut has a lot of opinions tonight, and it's telling me no.

I agree with you that I'd take Hamilton as the third piece, but you can't build a deal around him.

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I am not as optimistic that we are keeping Roberts.

Good to hear Belkast. It would make very little sense to keep Roberts in this point. After getting mostly depth and few (if any) elite prospects in the Tejada deal, we need the premium prospects that Roberts can bring back. I'm really hoping he's dealt.

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Good to hear Belkast. It would make very little sense to keep Roberts in this point. After getting mostly depth and few (if any) elite prospects in the Tejada deal, we need the premium prospects that Roberts can bring back. I'm really hoping he's dealt.

Absolutely!!!! If you are going to rebuild, go all out.

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I agree, I think Roberts should definetaly be dealt. Also think we should find a way to deal Mora to Philly even if we have to eat 1/2 or more of his salary. I think Huff, Millar, Payton will all have to wait till the deadline, unless they can be put in with a Roberts or Bedard deal.

Here's hoping we get it done soon(Bedard, Roberts) :002_sdrool:

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