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Betemit's OPS vs RHPs is not an opinion. It's a true statement. A fact. Saying it over and over doesn't make it true, the fact that it's true makes it true.

As i've said, it's not Betemit i'm overly concerned with. It's the assumption that some combination that includes Valencia/Reimold/Jackson etc. will automatically out produce any one player named.

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As i've said, it's not Betemit i'm overly concerned with. It's the assumption that some combination that includes Valencia/Reimold/Jackson etc. will automatically out produce any one player named.

Sorry, I don't at all understand what you are saying here. I haven't seen anyone assume that these three guys will outproduce any one player named. You mean like Hamilton? Where are you getting this?

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As i've said, it's not Betemit i'm overly concerned with. It's the assumption that some combination that includes Valencia/Reimold/Jackson etc. will automatically out produce any one player named.

With Betemit getting the lion's share of PAs against righties and doing his thing(.865 OPS vs. RHPs since 2010), they would need to post an OPS of around .810 in around 200-250 PAs vs. LHPs against lefties and maybe a .650 in around 100-150 PAs vs. RHPs to be close to as productive as Swisher. Based on their track records, it seems like one of them can pull that off.

No lost draft pick. No silly contract.

All things considered, I can live with that.

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Sorry, I don't at all understand what you are saying here. I haven't seen anyone assume that these three guys will outproduce any one player named. You mean like Hamilton? Where are you getting this?

Maybe not out produce, but many have said a platoon of Betemit and throw in any of those RH hitters will produce as much as any player we could aquire to DH. That is, if Betemit truly platoons. He is a SH and was originally signed to be an everyday player. He might just be the full time DH.

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With Betemit getting the lion's share of PAs against righties and doing his thing(.865 OPS vs. RHPs since 2010), they would need to post an OPS of around .810 in around 200-250 PAs vs. LHPs against lefties and maybe a .650 in around 100-150 PAs vs. RHPs to be close to as productive as Swisher. Based on their track records, it seems like one of them can pull that off.

No lost draft pick. No silly contract.

All things considered, I can live with that.

Like I said, if the do decide to even platoon Betemit. He is a SH and was signed to play everyday. He might be the fulltime DH.

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Maybe not out produce, but many have said a platoon of Betemit and throw in any of those RH hitters will produce as much as any player we could aquire to DH. That is, if Betemit truly platoons. He is a SH and was originally signed to be an everyday player. He might just be the full time DH.
Not true. DD was always of the position that he would be used as a LH bat mostly at DH. He ended up playing too much 3B because Reynolds couldn't hold down the position and Davis had arm issues.

""He can play the field, but I believe his best position is batting," Duquette said in January when he announced the two-year deal worth $3.25 million. "He can get on base, he can hit, he can drive in a run. He has power. We did say we were also looking for a hitter, and I think we got a pretty good one in Betemit."

Betemit will mostly be used as a left-handed hitter against right-handed pitchers — he has batted .276 with a .346 on-base percentage in those situations in his career."

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-04-12/sports/bs-sp-orioles-betemit-0413-20120412_1_wilson-betemit-marcus-giles-edgar-renteria

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