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Stocks are inflated on Jim Johnson. He's quite good, but he's not nearly as good as his statistical season would intimate to the rest of the league. His mini-collapses around mid-season and at the very end of the season were, IMO, representative of mini-regressions that I believe will occur on a larger scale soon. I actually really like Johnson, but if there is one person with "sell-high" written all over him, it's #43.

Reasons to capitalize now:

1) The bullpen, IS the depth and strength from which to trade at this point, not young starting pitching. Yes they were a large part of our 1-run and extra-inning anomalies, but they were mostly just that: anomalies. With some almost guaranteed regression to the mean in those statistical categories, we shouldn't feel like we must have the same bullpen to have the same success; frankly, that's not going to happen again no matter who is relieving our starters. Losing JJ would still leave us with a strong pen, and IMO, strong enough that we should be attempting to bolster other areas (like starting pitching, DH) that are in greater need.

2) He isn't going to save another 51 games, and he isn't a prototypical closer type. The inflated save statistics were in large part due to the anomalies mentioned above: a LOT of close games, a good relieving corp, and some luck. His value will go down following the 2013 season.

3) We have potentially reasonable replacements: Strop, Matusz, (Hunter? probably not).

If Jim Johnson could land us Porcello, I say do it!

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I just don't know about trading JJ. He was one of the reasons we were where we were. JJ is not the typical kind of closer but I like the fact that he usually throws strike one. We have to remember that this was his first playoff appearance as well. I would rather trade Strop, matusz, or Arrieta. I would listen for sure but would need to be tbe perfect trade. I would ask for Porcello and a prospect for Johnson as I believe the Tigers are getting the better end of the deal straight up, especially in the big ball park out there. I am still more concerned about a middle of the order bat at this point.

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For the record, I'm not against trading Jim Johnson. Everyone has a price. I'm just not trading him for scraps. None of us know what teams would be willing to give for him.
This. People can't stand prosperity around here. Unless someone knows of an awesome trade offer for JJ that I don't know about, I feel like we should be having this discussion around the ASB IF we're out of contention.
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For the record, I'm not against trading Jim Johnson. Everyone has a price. I'm just not trading him for scraps. None of us know what teams would be willing to give for him.

I agree. I'm open to trading JJ but I'd have to get back more than just Porcello. Detroit would have to throw in a pretty good prospect on top of that.

For Porcello alone, I'd be looking to trade someone more along the lines of Arrieta or maybe even Strop.

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