Per Roch: Roberts to see a specialist in Dallas tomorrow

[atomic]

I hope the team isn't paying for his flight to Dallas. That would be throwing good money after bad. Really there is no hope of him helping the team.

[SteveO]

I hope the team isn't paying for his flight to Dallas. That would be throwing good money after bad. Really there is no hope of him helping the team.

Really? Your worried about them paying for his flight lol ...... If you spend 40 million on a guy I hardly think calling 750$ on a plan ticket to Dallas is much of a concern or loss

Truth be told fans hate baseball players and the lavish money/lifestyle that they are afforded for playing a game while we work 40+ hours a week to make as much in a lifetime as some do in couple months as a MLB player (ARod etc). We just simply repress that hatred because we love the game and love the team that plays the game we love for us. So long as they produce we love em. Soon as they can't, or do something that makes it acceptable to unleash that pent up rage ...we do so. Thus the anger at BRob and the overly dramatic reaction to bubblegate

[Gurgi]

Roberts should not feel bad about the contract. The Union would never let him quit if he admitted it was for the money.

Frankly it is sad to see his career with the Orioles just end with a whimper. Because even if my some minor miracle he gets into the season after the allstar break I still dont see him producing very high level baseball and would never imagine we resign him. So this is it guys.

[nsw]

The "give the money back to the billionaire owner" argument always grates. Players don't get extra when they outperform.

[crissfan172]

I love how people hate Angelos, but are angry at Roberts for being paid while injured. Roberts has always been a guy the fans love, but he just hasn't been able to stay healthy, and now there are those that hate the guy? I can understand being frustrated, but let's not treat the guy like some POS scumbag.

[Dipper9]

Well actually I think I would really have trouble accepting 40 million dollars for no ouput considering:

1. PED's abuse aided in creating performance that led to contract.

2. Concussion which caused lost time was self induced.

I'm not sure how much this bothers Brian, but I'd like to think there are honorable people (maybe me) that would return a large portion of his contract to a good cause. I mean he has done nothing for 4 years and 40 million dollars... even Albert Belle provided some value.

Return a large portion of money that will provide for his family for generations to come? Which one of the two of you is not thinking clearly?

Hell, I stopped on the side of Belair Road on Saturday morning to give a travel team $5 for their baseball trip to Florida, but giving back $40 million when that could set my family, kids, up for life, is not something I would even think about for two seconds.

[Dipper9]

Roberts does a lot of charity work for the University of Maryland Children's Hospital and for that he has my deepest respect. I know his latest ailment was self-inflicted but it is not as if he did it to get out of honoring his contract. Quite the contrary, he has suffered because of it. I know a lot of people here think he should return the money but I wonder how many would want him to do so if he were the Yankees' problem instead of ours. I'd bet people would be quite content to let the Yankees eat the contract, maybe as a side dish, since the ARod contract is the main course. Moreover, I wonder how many people would hand the money back to their billionaire baseball owner and his insurance company, instead of keeping the money. I don't like to see Roberts go out this way, but he has to find the courage to call it a career, not for the sake of the money, but just so he can move on emotionally with the rest of his life.

Angelos: Point...Counter PointI won't argue that Angelos has not been a good owner, but are we really going to blame Roberts on Peter Angelos too? If there is one thing Peter has done, with the exception of Moose, he has paid his own. Mora, Roberts, Markakis, Cal. At the time of the contracts, most fans were screaming "Pay the Man" and we were happy Angelos kept them in town. Roberts injuries over the past 4 years have been agonizing to watch, but I'm not laying this one on Peter, and while you didn't either, I think its ridiculous that he even be brought up in this thread.

[auzzy98]

I've never seen so much disrespect for an Oriole as there has been for Roberts on this site. He is one of the greatest Orioles of all time. It is no ones business what he does with his money,

I actually couldn't agree more. Brian Roberts played 2nd base for the Orioles thru the horrible down years. He was a well above average 2nd basemen, offensively and defensively. He always gave it his all no matter how bad the team he was on was. He EARNED the $40 million contract by being one of the top 2nd basemans in the league for about 6 years. I'm sure he feels bad enough for not being able to be on the field much lately, without all the hate and disrespect he gets from ppl all the time. Cut him some slack, he has earned it.

[justice98]

You simply can't count on Roberts anymore. Any plan involving Roberts the rest of the season needs to involve him and the starting caliber guy that will inevitably have to replace him when he goes out again.

[TonySoprano]

Angelos: Point...Counter PointI won't argue that Angelos has not been a good owner, but are we really going to blame Roberts on Peter Angelos too? If there is one thing Peter has done, with the exception of Moose, he has paid his own. Mora, Roberts, Markakis, Cal. At the time of the contracts, most fans were screaming "Pay the Man" and we were happy Angelos kept them in town. Roberts injuries over the past 4 years have been agonizing to watch, but I'm not laying this one on Peter, and while you didn't either, I think its ridiculous that he even be brought up in this thread.

Reading is fundamental; you should try it sometime. Who is blaming Angelos? Don't worry, all the same, for your efforts you'll still get your annual refrigerator magnet and Christmas card from the law offices of Peter G. Angelos, ESQ. All I'm saying is until MLB changes the rules about guaranteed contracts, very few would give back money to their mega deep-pocket boss and his insurers.

[SeaBird]

I've never seen so much disrespect for an Oriole as there has been for Roberts on this site. He is one of the greatest Orioles of all time. It is no ones business what he does with his money,

Hah! Thanks for the laugh. One of the greatest? Not even close. A great "No Show", yes. I fully expected to see his face on the side of a milk carton with the words, "Have You Seen Me?"

His 4 year contract which began in 2010 and ends (thankfully) after 2013, pays him $10M per. And for that, he gave the team:

59 games in 2010

39 games in 2011

17 games in 2012

3 games so far this year

Almost $350,000 per game. Wow!

Put him out to pasture.

And as was previously mentioned, all of his woes are self inflicted.

[justice98]

Hah! Thanks for the laugh. One of the greatest? Not even close. A great "No Show", yes. I fully expected to see his face on the side of a milk carton with the words, "Have You Seen Me?"

His 4 year contract which began in 2010 and ends (thankfully) after 2013, pays him $10M per. And for that, he gave the team:

59 games in 2010

39 games in 2011

17 games in 2012

3 games so far this year

Almost $350,000 per game. Wow!

Put him out to pasture.

And as was previously mentioned, all of his woes are self inflicted.

Yikes, that's terrible return. The O's have given out some bad contracts in their day, but that's gotta be up there. In fact, there's a strong argument that it's the worst contract in Orioles history. At least Albert Belle gave you a couple seasons.

[Dipper9]

Reading is fundamental; you should try it sometime. Who is blaming Angelos? Don't worry, all the same, for your efforts you'll still get your annual refrigerator magnet and Christmas card from the law offices of Peter G. Angelos, ESQ. All I'm saying is until MLB changes the rules about guaranteed contracts, very few would give back money to their mega deep-pocket boss and his insurers.

If YOU could read you would see where I said...

but I'm not laying this one on Peter, and while you didn't either

But to answer your question, I thought it was in the code of the Rules of the Hangout that any time Soprano speaks ill of Peter, Dip must come to the counterpoint, and vice-a-versa!

[TonySoprano]

If YOU could read you would see where I said...

I am aware of that but you also said

but are we really going to blame Roberts on Peter Angelos too?

But to answer your question, I thought it was in the code of the Rules of the Hangout that any time Soprano speaks ill of Peter, Dip must come to the counterpoint, and vice-a-versa!

..and you say I follow you around?

[Dipper9]

I am aware of that but you also said

..and you say I follow you around?

You know what's funny with you and I? I have never met you in person (not until May 18th that is) but yet I truly feel you're like a brother to me, in that we can bash each other and nearly troll each other, but it's all good and doesn't irritate me at all.

Hope you feel the same way, cause its all in fun with you! My intentions are not to be confrontational!