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Almost immediately after the contract extension took effect, Roberts began suffering from a bizarre series of injuries.

This is not correct.

Roberts signed the extension in February of 2009. 2009 was one of Roberts' best (if not best) seasons ever, as he set the all-time major league record for doubles by a switch-hitter in a season (56), stole 30 bases, hit 16 HR's, and scored 110 runs.

Maybe it's just the lawyer in me, but "the contract extension took effect" in 2010, even though it was signed in 2009. So to me, the statement is accurate. If the statement has said "Almost immediately after the contract extension was signed, Roberts began suffering from a bizarre series of injuries, that would be an incorrect statement. But that isn't what it said.

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Roberts' contract wasn't bad on it's face, but his sudden chronic injuries that cropped up almost immediately certainly made the contact "bad". I think at the time they made it, they were rewarding the guy who served as the face of the franchise for several "down years". I liked the contract. It kept my favorite player in Baltimore to hopefully retire as an Oriole.

The other guys on that list? Mostly mercenaries. Roberts was Mr. Oriole.

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Sorry. I just now read the OP article. ONLY Danys'es'es contract was bad. Erickson's was borderline. The rest were fine but BAD BAD luck.

I'm Sorry but the Belle contract was the right move. The guy was coming off a monster year and had a monster 1st year for us. At least you can probably say Belle wasn't juicing. Damn maybe he should have. Everyone else was. People weren't going to Canada and Europe for stem cell surgery yet. I watched Chris Davis this year and Miguel Tejeda's big year, but I'll say the Belle is the most feared O's hitter I've ever seen. Born in 83.

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I'm Sorry but the Belle contract was the right move. The guy was coming off a monster year and had a monster 1st year for us. At least you can probably say Belle wasn't juicing. Damn maybe he should have. Everyone else was. People weren't going to Canada and Europe for stem cell surgery yet. I watched Chris Davis this year and Miguel Tejeda's big year, but I'll say the Belle is the most feared O's hitter I've ever seen. Born in 83.

Is absolutely what I meant! If not well conveyed. Great contract that just went MFing south. :noidea: Ish happens.

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Nah. you just pussed out.

"I will give you the last word: on how Pat Kelly and Larry Harlow provided offensive production in the 1977 and '78 seasons to the calibre of Don Baylor and how the Orioles were not impacted.

I will also give you the last word on how the Orioles, whom you contend could not have afforded to keep Baylor, convinced themselves to trade for Jackson. Did the Orioles dump Baylor, knowing full-well they could not afford to sign Jackson? Or were they blindsided by Reggie, trading for him to be the cornerstone of the offense for years to come?"

No, I didn't "puss out." I'm not afraid of you, or your fantasy/what if scenarios.

I explained myself several times in the previous pages, and I have the facts to back them up. The Orioles were an outstanding franchise from 1977-1983, after Baylor and Jackson both signed with other teams. I also explained in detail (as did Russ Snyder) about how the players that the Orioles acquired as a result of that trade contributed greatly toward their success from 1977 onward.

You, on the other hand, have no evidence that Baylor (or Grich) would have re-signed with the Orioles if Baylor had not been traded. The fact is that they both signed with the highest bidders at the time, and it wasn't the Orioles.

You're just a malcontent that harbors a deep resentment against Reggie Jackson, and refuse to accept that the Baylor-for Jackson trade did not set the franchise back. In fact, you are the only person that I have ever come across that has made that claim.

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I watched Chris Davis this year and Miguel Tejeda's big year, but I'll say the Belle is the most feared O's hitter I've ever seen. Born in 83.

I'm glad you mentioned your age. I was about to have a conniption fit. I think your statement is fair enough considering the time frame.

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I watched Chris Davis this year, and Miguel Tejeda's big year, but I'll say that Belle is/was the most feared O's hitter I've ever seen. Born in '83.
I'm glad you mentioned your age. I was about to have a conniption fit. I think your statement is fair enough considering the time frame.
Eddie, or Frank?

From what I hear, this guy was an absolute terror 4 years before I was born.

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Eddie, or Frank?

Frank: .300/.401/.543, 169 OPS+ as an Oriole

Eddie: .294/.370/.498, 139 OPS+ as an Oriole

It's closer in my mind than it is statistically, but either way, it's Frank.

A 169 OPS+ over a six year period is mind blowing.

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Frank: .300/.401/.543, 169 OPS+ as an Oriole

Eddie: .294/.370/.498, 139 OPS+ as an Oriole

It's closer in my mind than it is statistically, but either way, it's Frank.

A 169 OPS+ over a six year period is mind blowing.

Especially when you see the time frame he did it given that was probably the most

pitching friendly era in modern baseball history. Love Eddie but Frank was incredible for us.

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No, I didn't "puss out." I'm not afraid of you, or your fantasy/what if scenarios.

I explained myself several times in the previous pages, and I have the facts to back them up. The Orioles were an outstanding franchise from 1977-1983, after Baylor and Jackson both signed with other teams. I also explained in detail (as did Russ Snyder) about how the players that the Orioles acquired as a result of that trade contributed greatly toward their success from 1977 onward.

You, on the other hand, have no evidence that Baylor (or Grich) would have re-signed with the Orioles if Baylor had not been traded. The fact is that they both signed with the highest bidders at the time, and it wasn't the Orioles.

You're just a malcontent that harbors a deep resentment against Reggie Jackson, and refuse to accept that the Baylor-for Jackson trade did not set the franchise back. In fact, you are the only person that I have ever come across that has made that claim.

I can't believe I am the only person who thinks the trade was a step backward for the franchise. There must be others and I'm sure we would both love to hear from them, if they are reading this.

The only player I can think of harboring a "deep resentment" against would be Pete Rose. And even he doesn't rouse emotion. Reggie doesn't stir my drink a bit.

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