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Until he actually has the visit and something comes out detailing what, if anything is going on, I'm going to withhold my reactions and emotions, and as impossible as it is, I think it'd be in the best interest of everyone else to do the same.

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Until he actually has the visit and something comes out detailing what, if anything is going on, I'm going to withhold my reactions and emotions, and as impossible as it is, I think it'd be in the best interest of everyone else to do the same.

This is a message board, its better to make wild guesses and accusations instead.

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If he was healthy enough to DH last night, why couldn't he continue to DH and get surgery in the offseason?

Yeah - give him a "cortisone" shot and throw him back out there...:clap3: - works for me!

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It is insane to DH Wieters this year and get the surgery in the offseason. Basically you are saying you prefer half of Wieters (best defensive catcher in the game) for 2014 over all of him in 2015 when we might really have a shot at something special with Gausman and Bundy in the mix.

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A UCL for a catcher has to be different than a UCL for a pitcher, right? I mean, catchers make a couple of stressful throws per game (maybe). Pitchers make 50x that.

Heck, even UCL injuries for pitchers are only recently resulting in must-have TJ surgery. Many have tried to rehab over the year rather than surgery. I suspect it depends on how bad the damage is.

Personally, I see no reason that Wieters wouldn't play through this unless it's really bad. I think the O's could really try to manage his innings catching, put him on a rehab program (or even 1-2 DL stints) and maybe schedule surgery for November after we win the World Series.

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A UCL for a catcher has to be different than a UCL for a pitcher, right? I mean, catchers make a couple of stressful throws per game (maybe). Pitchers make 50x that.

Heck, even UCL injuries for pitchers are only recently resulting in must-have TJ surgery. Many have tried to rehab over the year rather than surgery. I suspect it depends on how bad the damage is.

Personally, I see no reason that Wieters wouldn't play through this unless it's really bad. I think the O's could really try to manage his innings catching, put him on a rehab program (or even 1-2 DL stints) and maybe schedule surgery for November after we win the World Series.

I agree. I'm cool with him missing the parade.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23orioles&src=hash">#orioles</a> are covered if Wieters goes on DL by bringing Caleb Joseph to TB, but they truly expect Wieters to catch tomorrow. Stay tuned</p>— Roch Kubatko (@masnRoch) <a href="
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That's about as optimistic as we could hope for. I hope they're right.

Obviously hoping Matt's healthy or at least only needs a week or two off, but it would be cool to watch Joseph finally get a chance to play - even for just a game or two.

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A UCL for a catcher has to be different than a UCL for a pitcher, right? I mean, catchers make a couple of stressful throws per game (maybe). Pitchers make 50x that.

Heck, even UCL injuries for pitchers are only recently resulting in must-have TJ surgery. Many have tried to rehab over the year rather than surgery. I suspect it depends on how bad the damage is.

Personally, I see no reason that Wieters wouldn't play through this unless it's really bad. I think the O's could really try to manage his innings catching, put him on a rehab program (or even 1-2 DL stints) and maybe schedule surgery for November after we win the World Series.

For what its worth, Carl Crawford underwent TJS on August 22, 2012. He played in his first spring training game on March 22, 2013 and was ready for Opening Day 2013...so, a 7 month recovery for an outfielder. I would think that a catcher's rehabilitation could take a little bit longer, but definitely not as long as a pitcher.

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If it is TJ surgery. You get it done ASAP so you are ready for next season. If he gets surgery in October, he would miss most if not all of 2015.

I remember reading somewhere that TJ rehab for position players is ~6 months--not a year or more. And I don't even know how a catcher would get to the point of needing TJ surgery in the first place.

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A UCL for a catcher has to be different than a UCL for a pitcher, right? I mean, catchers make a couple of stressful throws per game (maybe). Pitchers make 50x that.

Heck, even UCL injuries for pitchers are only recently resulting in must-have TJ surgery. Many have tried to rehab over the year rather than surgery. I suspect it depends on how bad the damage is.

Personally, I see no reason that Wieters wouldn't play through this unless it's really bad. I think the O's could really try to manage his innings catching, put him on a rehab program (or even 1-2 DL stints) and maybe schedule surgery for November after we win the World Series.

For what its worth, Carl Crawford underwent TJS on August 22, 2012. He played in his first spring training game on March 22, 2013 and was ready for Opening Day 2013...so, a 7 month recovery for an outfielder. I would think that a catcher's rehabilitation could take a little bit longer, but definitely not as long as a pitcher.

A few years back I was watching a game and the announcers were discussing a catcher coming back from TJ surgery (don't recall who it was), but they were saying the road to recovery from TJ for a catcher is more difficult than a pitcher or other position player due to the nature of the throw (snap throw) that catchers make in controlling the running game relative to other position players, including pitchers. I'm not sure if this still holds true, I'm just recalling an in game discussion I heard about this issue.

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I remember reading somewhere that TJ rehab for position players is ~6 months--not a year or more. And I don't even know how a catcher would get to the point of needing TJ surgery in the first place.

I dont even know how to respond to that.

Yes the rehab time is shortened for position players but you never know what kind of set backs could happen.

Even the though of waiting to the end of the season just to have him DH is just stupid.

Just FYI, forearm pain leading to elbow pain means UCL injury. Its Dylan Bundy 2013 all over again. Book it.

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I dont even know how to respond to that.

Yes the rehab time is shortened for position players but you never know what kind of set backs could happen.

Even the though of waiting to the end of the season just to have him DH is just stupid.

Just FYI, forearm pain leading to elbow pain means UCL injury. Its Dylan Bundy 2013 all over again. Book it.

What exactly do you not understand?

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