Jump to content

Trade Watch (It starts)

weams

By weams
in Orioles Talk

Recommended Posts

SteveO Veteran All-Star

SteveO

Posted
Posted

If we got Zobrist then we will have given up a boatload of talent we cant afford to give up in order to get him (not sure we have the prospects anyway)

With the demand for him, he is about as unobtainable as Cole Hamels

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 2k
  • Created
  • Last Reply
SteveO Veteran All-Star

SteveO

Posted
Posted
He's under contract thru 2016 and his deal averages about 9 million a year, which is LESS than Markakis was offered and agreed to before it was rescinded.

Bruce is heating up and has good numbers lately, but was very disappointing last season and his RF arm may not be what it used to be.He is 3 years younger than Nick and when he was producing was considered one of the bright young stars in the game.

Im not sure what it would take to get him, but would anyone out there be interested in the pickup if it were to happen?

I would be down with getting Jay Bruce not entirely sure though that we would be able to go toe to toe with some of the other teams that would be interested in him.

I think a lot of people (not directed at you Roy) in general have an unrealistic view of what this team is realistically capable of trading for.

We have very few guys that are that are highly regarded (prospects) and the few we do, I believe we desperately need to hold on to for various reasons.

If we do not sell then I believe we will likely be a team waiting to see who is left when the music is about to stops that we can get at a reasonable price. That does not mean those guy will not be helpful but I think most fans need to be realistic and realize guys like Upton, Hamels, Zobrist and company are likely not coming here. Bruce might be a reasonable target but I suspect there would be some competition for him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
sportsfan8703 Hangout Grand Counsel

sportsfan8703

Posted
Posted
Alright, I'm convinced. Why is no one talking about Parra? He's making almost no money, .861 OPS, 28 years old....I guess because he is way outperforming his previous body of work?

Seems to me like that's an even better reason to try to buy assuming his pricetag is lower. No commitment beyond the rest of this year.

Plus the guy has won two GG's before. One in 2011 primarily playing LF, the other in 2013 primarily playing RF.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
DrungoHazewood Hangout Grand Counsel

DrungoHazewood

Posted
Posted

Interested. He's relatively cheap, deal isn't that long if he doesn't produce. Has upside. Don't know if the O's have what it takes to trade for him without rendering a scant farm system barren. I also like that he apparently has a no-trade clause that rules out all of the AL East teams except the Orioles.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
sportsfan8703 Hangout Grand Counsel

sportsfan8703

Posted
Posted

It's funny a couple months ago there was a thread about "who was everyone's favorite non oriole players". Mine were Bruce and Zobrist. I'd look at Bruce like this. He's our Chris Davis replacement for 2016-2017. We're not getting Davis at what he's going to get with Boras. So anyone that we would sign to fill that hole would cost us a first rd pick. So that's value we'd already have to invest in getting a Davis replacement anyway, and it wouldn't be just a 2 year deal.

But it's looking smart not to do anything until the 31st because if Detroit becomes a seller it floods the market. Best thing for us to do is to go 5-0, 4-1 in our next 5 games. Cespedes being on the market would lower Bruce's value.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Stotle Hangout Grand Counsel

Stotle

Posted
Posted

My issue with Zobrist is there are competitors that are highly likely to drive up the price, and I hate the idea of a rental considering where the Orioles currently reside, standings-wise. So many teams competing for wild card spot and 7 games to make up on Yankees, I just hate the idea of giving up assets and maybe coming away with a one-game wildcard play-in in which anything at all could happen.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
DrungoHazewood Hangout Grand Counsel

DrungoHazewood

Posted
Posted
My issue with Zobrist is there are competitors that are highly likely to drive up the price, and I hate the idea of a rental considering where the Orioles currently reside, standings-wise. So many teams competing for wild card spot and 7 games to make up on Yankees, I just hate the idea of giving up assets and maybe coming away with a one-game wildcard play-in in which anything at all could happen.

Zobrist has been worth a win this year, give or take. It's not like he's some kind of '08 CC Sabathia rental who you can pitch every third day for eight innings and you just don't care because he's signing with the Yanks in two months. Best case he turns 86 wins into 88. If the rest of the team doesn't pick it up he might turn 78 into 79.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
spiritof66 Hangout Grand Counsel

spiritof66

Posted
Posted

I like Zobrist, and he is the epitome of Buck-friendly versatility. But in the past few days, I've seen references to the Mets, Nats, Cubs, Pirates, Royals, Giants and Yankees pursuing a trade for Zobrist, with the Mets reportedly having backed off due to the high asking price and most of the media attention today focused on a Royals deal for him. It's a crowded fielded, one that I doubt we could or should compete in.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Moondoggie Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

Moondoggie

Posted
Posted

Please, no. As I was saying in another thread, I have some friends who are Reds fans and they would love to see him traded because his huge hot and cold streaks become so frustrating. Yes, his bat is hot right now, but then he'll go 2-for-40 and you'll be nostalgic for Chris Parmelee.

If I were going to deal for a bat right now and try to win this thing, I'd check in with the Phillies on Ben Revere. He still has two years of control left after this one and as a BA/OBP/SB guy he could solve the Orioles' problem at the top of the order. He could score a ton of runs hitting ahead of Jones, Machado and (for this year, if they don't trade him) Davis.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Stotle Hangout Grand Counsel

Stotle

Posted
Posted
Zobrist has been worth a win this year, give or take. It's not like he's some kind of '08 CC Sabathia rental who you can pitch every third day for eight innings and you just don't care because he's signing with the Yanks in two months. Best case he turns 86 wins into 88. If the rest of the team doesn't pick it up he might turn 78 into 79.

That was my sense, by admittedly I didn't look up the details. Thanks -- I feel more strongly it isn't the type of move I'd focus on.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
clapdiddy Hangout Grand Counsel

clapdiddy

Posted
Posted
Please, no. As I was saying in another thread, I have some friends who are Reds fans and they would love to see him traded because his huge hot and cold streaks become so frustrating. Yes, his bat is hot right now, but then he'll go 2-for-40 and you'll be nostalgic for Chris Parmelee.

If I were going to deal for a bat right now and try to win this thing, I'd check in with the Phillies on Ben Revere. He still has two years of control left after this one and as a BA/OBP/SB guy he could solve the Orioles' problem at the top of the order. He could score a ton of runs hitting ahead of Jones, Machado and (for this year, if they don't trade him) Davis.

I am thinking Revere might not be a bad guy to go after. He's under team control through 2018, and his defense might play up a bit in LF.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing


  • Posts

    • Allan Bryant
      Cardinals open to trading Sonny Gray

      By Allan Bryant · Posted

      It can’t hurt to do research on him and place a call to Cards GM & see what’s involved . We need SP help . 
    • Jagwar
      A 26-Year 26-Man Roster

      By Jagwar · Posted

      Here is my roster. Wasn't an easy task with some tough decisions C  Adley Rutschmann 2022 1B Rafaeil Palmeiro 1998 2B Brian Roberts 2009 SS Miguel Tejada 2006 3B Manny Machado 2015 OF Adam Jones 2015 OF Albert Belle 1999 OF Trey Mancini 2017 DH Chris Davis 2013          Bench Gunnar Henderson 2024 Bench Melvin Mora 2004 Bench Jay Gibbons 2003 Bench Matt Wieters 2011 --------------------- SP Mike Mussina 2000 SP Jason Johnson 2001 SP Wei-Yen Chen    2014 SP Erik Bedard 2007 SP John Means 2019          RP Jorge Julio 2002 RP BJ Ryan 2005 RP Jim Johnson 2012 RP Koji Uehara    2010 RP Zack Britton    2016 RP Felix Bautista 2023 RP Darren O'Day    2014 RP George Sherril 2008  
    • Jagwar
      A 26-Year 26-Man Roster

      By Jagwar · Posted

      You must choose a 26-man roster from 26 seasons. Here are the rules. Ignore 2020 Select 13 position players, with 9 starters and 4 bench players Select 13 pitchers, with 5 starters and 8 relievers You can only select one player from each season from 1998-2024 (exclude 2020) You can only select a given player ONCE  Starting pitchers have to be starting pitchers, relievers have to be relievers I will amend rules as appropriate from any suggestions you have. Go. 
    • Just Regular
      RIP Pete Rose

      By Just Regular · Posted

      Now being reported on MLB Network in middle of Braves-Mets postgame wrapup.
    • Just Regular
      Rutschman 2nd half OPS .585 - McCann’s 2nd half OPS .785

      By Just Regular · Posted

      Adley's teams have beaten Witt's teams by about 25 games/season the last 2 years and hopefully can maintain a lead the next 2-3 days. If McCann bats 9th, and Ragans is gone before Batter Faced #27, would the risk of forfeiting the DH be considered if a righty reliever is attacking McCann in a key spot?    Hyde has at least Kjerstad and Holliday on the bench, and maybe one of Mullins or Cowser if Slater starts. I am guessing the roster tomorrow will be 14 bats and 12 arms, so you might have one extra somebody for the team's 36th or 45th plate appearance. One factor against taking the chance...zombie runner is gone so the two teams could have long extra innings for the first time all year.
    • casadeozo
      Cardinals open to trading Sonny Gray

      By casadeozo · Posted

      Not sure if it’s been shared already, but saw this and thought he would totally make sense as someone to target in the offseason. Cardinals are looking to reduce payroll, though not sure what a reasonable offer looks like for a 35 year old pitcher making 25 million a year for the next two years. A very light free agent class this year. Someone will definitely overpay for Burnes and I hope it’s not the Orioles. Severino, Buehler, Bieber and Max Fried are also intriguing. What say you? https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/09/report-cardinals-open-to-offers-on-sonny-gray.html
    • Grt 2BA FL Gator
      Corbin Burnes 2024

      By Grt 2BA FL Gator · Posted

      I was looking that up too. He was in the bullpen throughout 2018 brewers run. Had a very solid first playoff start in 2021, then a not so good one in 2023 as you posted. Postseason is a different animal, and he’s got some experience, but he’s not proven in the playoffs. Time to make that money Corbin! 

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...