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That was a WAG for sure... but I think Chicago adds a big FA arm. Most would probably guess Price but who knows. I don't think Jake gets an extension this off season after coming off a huge, huge year.

With the rumors that LAD wants to be closer to 200M than 300M, I think the Cubs go after Greinke if he can be had on a 5 year deal. Personally not all that interested in a 7 year deal on Price. If it was up to me, I want the Cubs to take Heyward, trade for one of Salazar/Ross and sign one of Maeda/Sierra. Speaking of Sierra, I would think that's the absolute perfect pitcher for cash strapped Baltimore. Rumors he may get a 5/30 deal, but he touches 96 and has good upside.

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With the rumors that LAD wants to be closer to 200M than 300M, I think the Cubs go after Greinke if he can be had on a 5 year deal. Personally not all that interested in a 7 year deal on Price. If it was up to me, I want the Cubs to take Heyward, trade for one of Salazar/Ross and sign one of Maeda/Sierra. Speaking of Sierra, I would think that's the absolute perfect pitcher for cash strapped Baltimore. Rumors he may get a 5/30 deal, but he touches 96 and has good upside.

Heyward to Cubs is interesting. I really don't know enough about Sierra to want him or not. We do desperately need some cheap pitching gold.

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That was a WAG for sure... but I think Chicago adds a big FA arm. Most would probably guess Price but who knows. I don't think Jake gets an extension this off season after coming off a huge, huge year.

I agree. They'd be better off signing Price and letting Jake walk. They get a few years with all 3 this way, and don't have to commit to so many big dollar SP.

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Two names to watch among the No. 2's are Jeff Samardzija and Scott Kazmir, both considered the top of the second tier of available pitching options. Samardzija rejected a one-year, $15.8 million qualifying offer from the White Sox on Friday. Kazmir did not receive a qualifying offer from the Astros.

In her article Britt brings up Kazmir and Samardzija. It would likely take 3-4 year deals on both. If you put the pick aside and just talk these two guys at 14 per deals ...would it be worth it?

I think it would replace Chen and then drastically improve your rotation.

Could you at these prices then deal Ulbaldo for something of value and go with Gonzo as 5th starter. Considering his last 10 starts one should expect Gonzalez to rebound. That move would save you around 8 million. Which makes the improvement cost about 6 million. Money well spent IMO.

I don't know if you could get both guys around 14 ...but you could have 8 to play with and defer some money as well.

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In her article Britt brings up Kazmir and Samardzija. It would likely take 3-4 year deals on both. If you put the pick aside and just talk these two guys at 14 per deals ...would it be worth it?

I think it would replace Chen and then drastically improve your rotation.

Could you at these prices then deal Ulbaldo for something of value and go with Gonzo as 5th starter. Considering his last 10 starts one should expect Gonzalez to rebound. That move would save you around 8 million. Which makes the improvement cost about 6 million. Money well spent IMO.

I don't know if you could get both guys around 14 ...but you could have 8 to play with and defer some money as well.

How do you figure that?

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Considering his last 10 starts one should expect Gonzalez to rebound. That move would save you around 8 million. Which makes the improvement cost about 6 million. Money well spent IMO.

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http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=gonzami03&t=p&year=&share=2.86#91-100-sum:pitching_gamelogs

Gonzalez was horrible and cost the Orioles a shot at the playoffs his last ten starts. What data are you looking at?

Miguel Gonzalez Pitching Gamelogs for Career Games 91 to 101

Date Tm G GS GF CG Rslt Dec DR IP H R ER BB SO HR HBP ERA BF BA OBP SLG OPS BAbip Pit Str StL StS GB FB LD PU Unk GSc IR IS SB CS PO AB 2B 3B IBB GDP SF ROE aLI WPA RE24 DFS(DK) DFS(FD)

Jul 11 to Sep 30, 2015 BAL 11 11 0 0 3-8 W-L:2-7 4.6 56.1 73 42 41 23 42 9 2 6.55 257 .317 .383 .513 .896 .356 1014 63% 14% 8% 0.81 32% 6% 0 41 ---%

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<script type="text/javascript" src="http://widgets.sports-reference.com/wg.fcgi?css=1&site=br&url=%2Fplayers%2Fg%2Fgonzami03.shtml&div=div_pitching_proj"></script>

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=gonzami03&t=p&year=&share=2.86#91-100-sum:pitching_gamelogs

Gonzalez was horrible and cost the Orioles a shot at the playoffs his last ten starts. What data are you looking at?

Miguel Gonzalez Pitching Gamelogs for Career Games 91 to 101

Date Tm G GS GF CG Rslt Dec DR IP H R ER BB SO HR HBP ERA BF BA OBP SLG OPS BAbip Pit Str StL StS GB FB LD PU Unk GSc IR IS SB CS PO AB 2B 3B IBB GDP SF ROE aLI WPA RE24 DFS(DK) DFS(FD)

Jul 11 to Sep 30, 2015 BAL 11 11 0 0 3-8 W-L:2-7 4.6 56.1 73 42 41 23 42 9 2 6.55 257 .317 .383 .513 .896 .356 1014 63% 14% 8% 0.81 32% 6% 0 41 ---%

Per Roch

Gonzalez slipped to 9-12 with a 4.91 ERA and 1.396 WHIP in 26 starts, his season interrupted by groin and shoulder injuries and his effectiveness never reaching the same level as 2014. We shouldn't forget that he posted a 2.19 era over his final 11 starts.
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