Update: O's sign Trumbo to 3yr/$37 mil deal

[Babypowder]

Paying for 1.5 wins a season and likely getting it. Not a bad deal, not a good one either. I'm not a fan of paying market price for average to below average players.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, Babypowder said:

Paying for 1.5 wins a season and likely getting it. Not a bad deal, not a good one either. I'm not a fan of paying market price for average to below average players.

I'd be OK with it if the O's needed someone to play first.

[Babypowder]

23 minutes ago, weams said:

Bautista’s contract also has a $17-million mutual option with a $500,000 buyout and a $20-million vesting option for 2019.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/report-jose-bautistas-new-deal-blue-jays-attendance-bonus/

Mutual options may as well not exist. They don't get picked up. If the player is good, he declines. If he's not, the club declines.

[Bradysburns]

9 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Signing Trumbo is a win now move.  Trumbo is likely to out hit Mancini in 2017.   

At some point down the road, I personally wouldn't mind seeing a lineup with Trumbo at DH... Chris Davis in right field... and Trey Mancini on first. Apparently Mancini is very limited defensively and can only play first or DH. He's not a potential outfielder... which I think inhibits his trade value considerably. 

[backwardsk]

8 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'd be OK with it if the O's needed someone to play first.

They may need a first baseman.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, backwardsk said:

They may need a first baseman.

Davis fail a test I'm not aware of?

[crawjo]

24 minutes ago, backwardsk said:

Why did Bautista choose to be not as good as Trumbo last season?

He was as good as Trumbo last season. I will take an .816 OPS with a .366 OBP over an .850 OPS with a .316 OBP every time. 

[backwardsk]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Davis fail a test I'm not aware of?

He could get hurt.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, crawjo said:

He was as good as Trumbo last season. I will take an .816 OPS with a .366 OBP over an .850 OPS with a .316 OBP every time. 

Trumbo 123 wRC+

Bautista 122 wRC+

I'd call that a rounding error.

[atomic]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

Except they once again passed on an additional draft pick.

And of course they are signing talents like Trumbo long term instead of the more talented players on the team.

You would want Wieters to be signed instead?  Or is it Alvarez or Pearce you find more talented?

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, backwardsk said:

He could get hurt.

Buck will still play him.

[atomic]

3 minutes ago, crawjo said:

He was as good as Trumbo last season. I will take an .816 OPS with a .366 OBP over an .850 OPS with a .316 OBP every time. 

Yeah and Bautista didn't strike out 170 times either.  Trumbo, Davis and Schoop are hard to watch bat.

[backwardsk]

4 minutes ago, crawjo said:

He was as good as Trumbo last season. I will take an .816 OPS with a .366 OBP over an .850 OPS with a .316 OBP every time. 

What do you do for the month and a half that he's not in the lineup?

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, backwardsk said:

What do you do for the month and a half that he's not in the lineup?

Pay Trey Mancini the league minimum for a month and half.

[backwardsk]

4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Trumbo 123 wRC+

Bautista 122 wRC+

I'd call that a rounding error.

Well if the amount of games played doesn't count, then we can agree that Mancini's year was better than both of them.