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11 hours ago, Rojo13 said:

Can someone tell me why he's worth zero and yet he's averaging 25 homes per year for the lass five and Davis is worth 22 million plus?

 

Yes Davis is better but not 22 million better. I'd rather have Pedro at three million per and then 19 million to spend on a pitcher. 

Davis career OPS: .827 (120 OPS+)

Alvarez career OPS: .759 (107 OPS+)

Add to that the fact that Chris Davis is a plus, some would say GG-caliber, first baseman, while Alvarez is almost positionless (or at least a major negative).

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2 hours ago, BohKnowsBmore said:

Davis career OPS: .827 (120 OPS+)

Alvarez career OPS: .759 (107 OPS+)

Add to that the fact that Chris Davis is a plus, some would say GG-caliber, first baseman, while Alvarez is almost positionless (or at least a major negative).

Davis HR Champion 2 out of 3 years.

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1 minute ago, scOtt said:

Davis HR Champion 2 out of 3 years.

I'm just trying to channel Big Peter's line of thinking. To somehow explain it to myself. Because he's the one that made this deal. If he would have at least stayed out of it, DEMANDED that DD sign Davis, DD would have gotten a much better deal.

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1 minute ago, scOtt said:

I'm just trying to channel Big Peter's line of thinking. To somehow explain it to myself. Because he's the one that made this deal. If he would have at least stayed out of it, DEMANDED that DD sign Davis, DD would have gotten a much better deal.

Or he would have gone to DET.

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5 minutes ago, weams said:

He is extended until today. 

Reminds me of the Pat Neshek situation in 2012.  Vet that signed an milb deal and we traded him to at least get something.  Well we traded him to another playoff team in Oak and he went on to post like a 1 ERA over 2 seasons there.  

Pedro is going to be a no win situation for us either way.  Either we let him go for nothing, or we call him up and he has no place to play anyway.  The only thing good to come out of this, is that DD and the org. will build up some good vibes with future players and agents in Pedro's situation.  

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3 hours ago, weams said:

He is extended until today. 

 

3 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Reminds me of the Pat Neshek situation in 2012.  Vet that signed an milb deal and we traded him to at least get something.  Well we traded him to another playoff team in Oak and he went on to post like a 1 ERA over 2 seasons there.  

Pedro is going to be a no win situation for us either way.  Either we let him go for nothing, or we call him up and he has no place to play anyway.  The only thing good to come out of this, is that DD and the org. will build up some good vibes with future players and agents in Pedro's situation.  

Maybe he can be part of a trade deal.

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4 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Reminds me of the Pat Neshek situation in 2012.  Vet that signed an milb deal and we traded him to at least get something.  Well we traded him to another playoff team in Oak and he went on to post like a 1 ERA over 2 seasons there.  

Pedro is going to be a no win situation for us either way.  Either we let him go for nothing, or we call him up and he has no place to play anyway.  The only thing good to come out of this, is that DD and the org. will build up some good vibes with future players and agents in Pedro's situation.  

Neshek pitched to a 2.70 ERA over 60 innings with Oakland.

Pedro may be a no-win scenario, but he's a no-loss one, too. The team took a flier on him and it probably isn't going to work out. In part because we've had guys surprise us (Mancini) and in part because Pedro honestly didn't take to outfield. He is a positionless player. That's why he had to take a minor league deal to begin with. Nobody wanted him for any kind of MLB salary.

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