Take this for what it's worth....

[Dipper9]

8 hours ago, Canson80 said:

And yet I still liked it more than Camden Yards. Guess it's a nostalgia thing.

I LOVED walking through the old neighborhood from the Alameda to a game. The peaceful atmosphere over homeless pandhandlers walking to Camden Yards. And there was never any trouble getting out after a game where we parked.

And the lines for food were not as long as they are now at Camden Yards under my experience.

 

It wasn't a "wreck" of a stadium. You have just been spoiled by the ammentiries of Camden. I had no trouble hearing the announcers or music from center field. I guess you were going deaf by then

I also loved Memorial Stadium, but I would think in 2018 walking through that neighborhood would not be as nostalgic as we remember it from our youth.  

[NATTYBO's]

RK	TEAM	GMS	TOTAL	AVG	PCT	GMS	AVG	PCT	GMS	AVG	PCT
1	Miami	59	574,924	9,744	26.0	56	30,110	68.8	115	19,661	48.5
2	Tampa Bay	56	831,893	14,855	43.6	56	25,668	61.0	112	20,262	53.2
3	Oakland	55	1,006,863	18,306	52.2	58	30,023	67.6	113	24,320	61.0
4	Chicago White Sox	55	1,024,124	18,620	46.7	56	26,789	64.5	111	22,741	55.8
5	Pittsburgh	60	1,150,104	19,168	50.0	52	28,939	66.6	112	23,704	58.2
6	Cincinnati	57	1,177,051	20,650	48.8	57	30,165	69.7	114	25,407	59.4
7	Baltimore	53	1,095,437	20,668	45.5	58	28,255	66.5	111	24,632	56.1
8	Kansas City	54	1,145,527	21,213	56.0	58	26,956	62.8	112	24,187	59.7
9	Detroit	55	1,264,110	22,983	55.7	57	24,928	59.7	112	23,973	57.7
10	Cleveland	57	1,355,410	23,779	54.7	54	27,681	67.7	111	25,677	60.8
11	Minnesota	56	1,359,190	24,271	63.7	55	28,029	66.3	111	26,133	65.0
12	Texas	60	1,593,044	26,550	54.0	55	25,155	59.4	115	25,883	56.4
13	Arizona	60	1,630,615	27,176	55.9	55	32,087	73.9	115	29,525	64.0
14	San Diego	55	1,509,478	27,445	66.7	59	30,195	68.7	114	28,868	67.8
15	Philadelphia	56	1,556,264	27,790	63.7	56	29,070	69.2	112	28,430	66.4
16	NY Mets	59	1,714,505	29,059	69.5	51	29,085	67.7	110	29,071	68.7
17	Seattle	60	1,761,426	29,357	61.3	53	25,666	59.7	113	27,626	60.6
18	Toronto	55	1,650,881	30,016	60.9	55	26,492	63.4	110	28,254	62.1
19	Washington	56	1,798,188	32,110	77.4	57	26,815	62.3	113	29,439	69.6
20	Atlanta	51	1,647,824	32,310	78.6	59	29,247	68.0	110	30,667	72.8
21	Milwaukee	58	2,013,181	34,710	82.8	57	27,517	63.7	115	31,144	73.2
22	Boston	57	2,026,363	35,550	94.8	57	30,116	69.9	114	32,833	81.4
23	Houston	56	2,051,037	36,625	89.4	59	28,892	65.0	115	32,658	76.4
24	Colorado	53	1,973,352	37,233	73.7	60	30,324	68.1	113	33,564	70.9
25	LA Angels	59	2,200,598	37,298	82.2	56	28,589	65.9	115	33,057	74.4
26	Chicago Cubs	56	2,179,971	38,928	94.6	57	33,232	77.2	113	36,055	85.6
27	San Francisco	56	2,186,458	39,043	93.2	59	34,245	75.8	115	36,582	83.9
28	St. Louis	55	2,337,000	42,490	96.6	59	28,258	68.0	114	35,125	82.2
29	NY Yankees	54	2,340,336	43,339	87.3	57	32,702	77.1	111	37,877	82.5
30	LA Dodgers	59	2,764,731	46,859	83.7	54	31,511	76.1	113	39,525	80.6

[NATTYBO's]

Look at Houston prior to their resurgence, winning matters to most fan bases....we were averaging 10K fans more and Houston now has 15K more per game.  At the time I doubt their fans were thinking that they would get relocated.  Tampa and Oakland would be first on the list and Miami would be gone already if they didn't have a brand new stadium lease.

 

2014 Attendance		Home				Road			Overall
RK	TEAM	GMS	TOTAL	AVG	PCT	GMS	AVG	PCT	GMS	AVG	PCT
1	Tampa Bay	81	1,446,464	17,857	52.4	81	28,685	65.8	162	23,271	59.9
2	Cleveland	78	1,437,393	18,428	42.4	81	29,107	68.9	159	23,868	55.7
3	Chicago White Sox	79	1,650,821	20,896	51.5	81	28,519	66.7	160	24,755	59.4
4	Miami	81	1,732,283	21,386	57.1	81	28,892	65.4	162	25,139	61.6
5	Houston	81	1,751,829	21,627	52.8	81	27,191	63.0	162	24,409	58.0
6	Kansas City	81	1,956,482	24,154	63.7	81	26,872	62.8	162	25,513	63.2
7	Oakland	80	2,003,628	25,045	71.4	81	28,757	65.6	161	26,912	68.2
8	Seattle	81	2,064,334	25,485	53.2	80	28,158	66.3	161	26,813	59.3
9	Arizona	81	2,073,730	25,601	54.0	79	31,481	70.6	160	28,504	61.9
10	NY Mets	80	2,148,808	26,860	64.3	81	32,217	73.4	161	29,555	69.0
11	San Diego	81	2,195,373	27,103	63.5	80	32,877	72.0	161	29,972	67.8
12	Minnesota	81	2,250,606	27,785	70.3	79	26,943	63.6	160	27,369	66.9
13	Atlanta	81	2,354,305	29,065	58.4	81	30,804	71.7	162	29,934	64.6
14	Toronto	81	2,375,525	29,327	59.5	81	29,708	71.2	162	29,518	64.9
15	Philadelphia	81	2,423,852	29,924	68.6	81	31,136	71.1	162	30,530	69.9
16	Pittsburgh	81	2,442,564	30,155	78.6	79	33,316	76.1	160	31,715	77.3
17	Cincinnati	81	2,476,664	30,576	72.3	81	32,140	74.1	162	31,358	73.2
18	Baltimore	80	2,464,473	30,805	67.8	81	29,671	70.4	161	30,235	69.0
19	Washington	81	2,579,389	31,844	76.7	81	29,864	68.8	162	30,854	72.6
20	Chicago Cubs	81	2,652,113	32,742	79.6	81	33,096	76.4	162	32,919	77.9
21	Colorado	81	2,680,329	33,090	65.5	81	31,659	71.2	162	32,375	68.2
22	Texas	81	2,718,733	33,564	68.3	81	27,155	64.3	162	30,360	66.4
23	Milwaukee	81	2,797,384	34,535	82.4	81	32,328	75.6	162	33,432	79.0
24	Detroit	81	2,917,209	36,014	87.3	81	28,800	68.0	162	32,407	77.5
25	Boston	81	2,956,089	36,494	98.5	81	31,867	73.6	162	34,181	85.1
26	LA Angels	81	3,095,935	38,221	84.2	80	28,174	65.1	161	33,229	74.9
27	San Francisco	81	3,368,697	41,588	99.2	81	32,936	72.7	162	37,262	85.5
28	NY Yankees	80	3,401,624	42,520	85.7	81	35,512	85.2	161	38,994	85.5
29	St. Louis	81	3,540,649	43,711	99.4	81	32,022	74.4	162	37,867	87.0
30	LA Dodgers	81	3,782,337	46,695	83.4	81	33,830	79.2	162	40,262	81.6

[scOtt]

On 8/6/2018 at 5:52 PM, LocoChris said:

Since Better Call Saul is returning today, I’ll keep with the theme.

So what you’re saying is, you know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy? 

 

[bobmc]

42 minutes ago, NATTYBO's said:

Look at Houston prior to their resurgence, winning matters to most fan bases....we were averaging 10K fans more and Houston now has 15K more per game.  At the time I doubt their fans were thinking that they would get relocated.  Tampa and Oakland would be first on the list and Miami would be gone already if they didn't have a brand new stadium lease.

 

2014 Attendance		Home				Road			Overall
RK	TEAM	GMS	TOTAL	AVG	PCT	GMS	AVG	PCT	GMS	AVG	PCT
1	Tampa Bay	81	1,446,464	17,857	52.4	81	28,685	65.8	162	23,271	59.9
2	Cleveland	78	1,437,393	18,428	42.4	81	29,107	68.9	159	23,868	55.7
3	Chicago White Sox	79	1,650,821	20,896	51.5	81	28,519	66.7	160	24,755	59.4
4	Miami	81	1,732,283	21,386	57.1	81	28,892	65.4	162	25,139	61.6
5	Houston	81	1,751,829	21,627	52.8	81	27,191	63.0	162	24,409	58.0
6	Kansas City	81	1,956,482	24,154	63.7	81	26,872	62.8	162	25,513	63.2
7	Oakland	80	2,003,628	25,045	71.4	81	28,757	65.6	161	26,912	68.2
8	Seattle	81	2,064,334	25,485	53.2	80	28,158	66.3	161	26,813	59.3
9	Arizona	81	2,073,730	25,601	54.0	79	31,481	70.6	160	28,504	61.9
10	NY Mets	80	2,148,808	26,860	64.3	81	32,217	73.4	161	29,555	69.0
11	San Diego	81	2,195,373	27,103	63.5	80	32,877	72.0	161	29,972	67.8
12	Minnesota	81	2,250,606	27,785	70.3	79	26,943	63.6	160	27,369	66.9
13	Atlanta	81	2,354,305	29,065	58.4	81	30,804	71.7	162	29,934	64.6
14	Toronto	81	2,375,525	29,327	59.5	81	29,708	71.2	162	29,518	64.9
15	Philadelphia	81	2,423,852	29,924	68.6	81	31,136	71.1	162	30,530	69.9
16	Pittsburgh	81	2,442,564	30,155	78.6	79	33,316	76.1	160	31,715	77.3
17	Cincinnati	81	2,476,664	30,576	72.3	81	32,140	74.1	162	31,358	73.2
18	Baltimore	80	2,464,473	30,805	67.8	81	29,671	70.4	161	30,235	69.0
19	Washington	81	2,579,389	31,844	76.7	81	29,864	68.8	162	30,854	72.6
20	Chicago Cubs	81	2,652,113	32,742	79.6	81	33,096	76.4	162	32,919	77.9
21	Colorado	81	2,680,329	33,090	65.5	81	31,659	71.2	162	32,375	68.2
22	Texas	81	2,718,733	33,564	68.3	81	27,155	64.3	162	30,360	66.4
23	Milwaukee	81	2,797,384	34,535	82.4	81	32,328	75.6	162	33,432	79.0
24	Detroit	81	2,917,209	36,014	87.3	81	28,800	68.0	162	32,407	77.5
25	Boston	81	2,956,089	36,494	98.5	81	31,867	73.6	162	34,181	85.1
26	LA Angels	81	3,095,935	38,221	84.2	80	28,174	65.1	161	33,229	74.9
27	San Francisco	81	3,368,697	41,588	99.2	81	32,936	72.7	162	37,262	85.5
28	NY Yankees	80	3,401,624	42,520	85.7	81	35,512	85.2	161	38,994	85.5
29	St. Louis	81	3,540,649	43,711	99.4	81	32,022	74.4	162	37,867	87.0
30	LA Dodgers	81	3,782,337	46,695	83.4	81	33,830	79.2	162	40,262	81.6

Thanks!  And when you see the attendance figures for Baltimore and DC, you see clearly the impact the Nats have had upon the Oriole franchise.