Jump to content

O's 2020 MLB Draft Chat: Picking #2/30/39/74

Greg Pappas
 Share

Recommended Posts

weams Hangout Grand Counsel

weams

Posted
Posted
24 minutes ago, FlipTheBird said:

I would imagine Elias and his team have already identified what guys from the old management team in the system they're ready to move on from, permanently.

Absolutely. Cedric Mullins, McKenna, probably Stewart...

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 797
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

MurphDogg
MurphDogg

With the qualifying offer deadline passed, we now know that there will be no picks between the end of the first round and the beginning of Competitive Balance Round A. The only way there could ha

Moose Milligan
Moose Milligan

Quick, hack Elias' radar and make Wilcox a subpar college outfielder.

WalkWithElias
WalkWithElias

Are we sure that's not the top prospects for the lacrosse draft? Those names. Wow. 

joelala All-Star

joelala

Posted
Posted
11 minutes ago, ArtVanDelay said:

I didn’t think it was possible to have the #2 pick and drop in the rankings.  

 

4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

And there is the money issue.  Even if Kjerstad was at the top of the board he shouldn't take near slot to sign.  None of the other picks so far look to be overslot so where is the money going?

I find it very hard to fathom that the O's pick the BPA every round and end up with a million+ unspent.

 

1 minute ago, interloper said:

 

 

 

Being a disagreeable message board hater is not, in fact, the same as a personality.

Agreed. But why is it so hard to believe that an analytics driven pragmatic regime would determine that with the lack of info on all of these guys due to covid that it’s simply not worth the risk?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Moose Milligan Hangout Grand Counsel

Moose Milligan

Posted
Posted
5 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

And there is the money issue.  Even if Kjerstad was at the top of the board he shouldn't take near slot to sign.  None of the other picks so far look to be overslot so where is the money going?

I find it very hard to fathom that the O's pick the BPA every round and end up with a million+ unspent.

Well, maybe they're going to go overslot later.  Who knows.

I'm curious as to how many teams spend every dollar of their draft pool each year anyway.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Can_of_corn Hangout Grand Counsel

Can_of_corn

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, joelala said:

 

 

Agreed. But why is it so hard to believe that an analytics driven pragmatic regime would determine that with the lack of info on all of these guys due to covid that it’s simply not worth the risk?

Because the risk is minimal compared to the potential reward.  Assuming your team's financials are in order what's spending an extra couple of million when you can get a cost controlled MLB player for 6+ years for it?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
interloper Hangout Grand Counsel

interloper

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Well that was unprovoked. 

giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47c12bfd5655bb7cf6cf

It's just years and years of hearing the same posts from you nearly 24/7 365. You spend a LOT of time on here just sniping and picking at other posters or the organization without really adding much to the conversation. You've been here for like a decade doing this daily. Doesn't it get old?

  • Downvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Can_of_corn Hangout Grand Counsel

Can_of_corn

Posted
Posted
2 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Well, maybe they're going to go overslot later.  Who knows.

I'm curious as to how many teams spend every dollar of their draft pool each year anyway.

Don't they risk running out of guys to spend the surplus on?  No offense to Haskin but he wouldn't have been there next round?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
joelala All-Star

joelala

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Because the risk is minimal compared to the potential reward.  Assuming your team's financials are in order what's spending an extra couple of million when you can get a cost controlled MLB player for 6+ years for it?

Oh I agree I don’t think it’s a very defensible position whether it’s an Elias decision or an Angelos one 

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Can_of_corn Hangout Grand Counsel

Can_of_corn

Posted
Posted
Just now, interloper said:

It's just years and years of hearing the same posts from you nearly 24/7 365. You spend a LOT of time on here just sniping and picking at other posters or the organization without really adding much to the conversation. You've been here for like a decade doing this daily. Doesn't it get old?

Use the /ignore function if it bothers you.  You shouldn't be launching personal attacks.

I'd hate for you to stoop to my level.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Moose Milligan Hangout Grand Counsel

Moose Milligan

Posted
Posted
Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Don't they risk running out of guys to spend the surplus on?  No offense to Haskin but he wouldn't have been there next round?

Haskin, from what I can tell, should have been there for the next two rounds.  It's perplexing.

I laughed yesterday at the Sox picking that kid, I felt at least we weren't THEM.  And then we did pretty much the same thing.

Elias has the 'rona.  No other way to describe this.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Posts

    • Safelykept
      Is Matt Wieters >Adley?

      By Safelykept · Posted

      If thats where he's at 1B or Dh there will be no extension. The bat woud have to be super special. and it's not. we already have like 3 of those Mounty, O'hearn and Mayo
    • eddie83
      ALWC Game 1 Attendance

      By eddie83 · Posted

      The on field product has the talent to win and bring out fans now.  I’m not saying not to spend more money.  Your first paragraph I agree with. The new owner assumes all the “debts” leftover. Ultimately it’s their responsibility to repair it.    They screwed up big time with their pricing. If this team rebounds and gets in the DS the excitement will pick up. Only the last week did they have any momentum after months of losing it. 
    • HowAboutThat
      Erceg vs Seranthony Dominguez

      By HowAboutThat · Posted

      That’s a very good point, but then you have the question whether you would be willing to give up McDermott plus for erceg, and that’s an easy trade to make. Plus, the athletics need almost everything, they wouldn’t want Hays But we could’ve found something to satisfy them.
    • Bemorewins
      ALWC Game 1 Attendance

      By Bemorewins · Posted

      IMO, this mindset ("new chapter") is part of the problem. We can't act like the past and the terrible relationship that the org had with it's customer base does not matter or have a carryover effect. Whether the org calls itself "new" or not IMO is irrelevant. The issue is whether or not it will operate in enough meaningful different ways. If the org wants more of it's market to be engaged it is going to have to raise the bar to championship expectations and invest more in the on-field product. That would be different from the past and would indeed reflect that something is "new".
    • Fiver6565
      ALWC Game 1 Attendance

      By Fiver6565 · Posted

      All of you guys talking about empty seats and an unengaged fanbase - did you not see the post showing over 41K in attendance, more than in MIL or HOU?  Are those fan bases also unengaged or disinterested? This is much ado about absolutely nothing.
    • Fiver6565
      Erceg vs Seranthony Dominguez

      By Fiver6565 · Posted

      I think at this point its just semantics regarding what a successful deadline looked like.  Elias upgraded three positions - SP, 2 RP.  Could there have been bigger upgrades?  Sure, at a bigger cost.  I think it was sufficient.  What has killed the team is the hitting.  If this team had hit like its capable of, and Soto, Eflin, and Dominguez all pitched exactly as they have, we'd all be feeling a lot better about the team, and probably lauding Elias for those three pickups and what a great boost they were at the deadline.  But we aren't hitting - at all - and I don't know what he could have done at the deadline to fix that. Already agreed that the draft strategy must evolve. I don't agree it was a bad strategy to do what they did so far, but it does have to evolve, just as the organization as a whole has evolved.  And I think it will.
    • Bemorewins
      ALWC Game 1 Attendance

      By Bemorewins · Posted

      I don't mean this as any kind of personal slight toward you. Please do not take this as such. But people/fans showed how they felt about this team who has been a loser for almost 4 months. And largely continued to hedge (beyond the Eflin addition) at the deadline. I bet you who did not have a bunch of empty seats for their playoff game yesterday .... San Diego. IMO it is because of the effort that they put in to continue to engage the fanbase. You can't sell people on the "homegrown" stars idea and no need to add a lot of outside talent. And then some of those "homegrown stars" who were so hyped flop. And then not extend the ones who turn into stars. That communicates a lack of investment by the org. Now when you add that up in the economy/2024 inflation and combine that with all of the other entertainment choices that people have in 2024; things like this will happen. Empty seats during a playoff game = an unengaged/unexcited fan base. The org has to own much of this.

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...