Bundy traded to Angels for Isaac Mattson, Kyle Bradish, Zach Peek, and Kyle Brnovich

[Going Underground]

1 minute ago, eddie83 said:

I’m fine with all of this as long as they spend later on. We won’t know for years the answer. 

Captain Obvious here but we need to nail these top picks next couple of years. 

But Houston might have the highest payroll next year. I doubt the Orioles will ever be close to the top.

[MurphDogg]

9 minutes ago, gtown said:

None of the four made the Angels' midseason Top 30.
Mattson: https://baseballamerica.com/players/99840/isaac-mattson/…
Peek: https://baseballamerica.com/players/106305/zach-peek/…
Kyle Bradish: https://baseballamerica.com/players/99246/kyle-bradish/…
Brnovich: https://baseballamerica.com/players/105861/kyle-brnovich/

Non-first round draft picks are rarely going to appear on a midseason top 30 list the year they are drafted, so Peek and Brnovich's exclusion means little to me.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, Wish said:

Means?  He's only 5 months younger than Dylan and he'll be 30 by the team we are any good.  Plus we can guarantee ourselves the #1 pick next year.  Just saying. 

Coming into last season we thought we had a lock on #1.  No such thing as a sure thing in baseball.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, Going Underground said:

But Houston might have the highest payroll next year. I doubt the Orioles will ever be close to the top.

Houston is going to sign Cole?

[interloper]

1 minute ago, MurphDogg said:

Non-first round draft picks are rarely going to appear on a midseason top 30 list the year they are drafted, so Peek and Brnovich's exclusion means little to me.

Exaaaaactlyyyy

[Enjoy Terror]

I'm thinking Bundy's gaff during the 9/12 game last year didn't do him any favors with the O's brass.

[Frobby]

One takeaway I have from these trades is that Elias thinks our next window is pretty far away.    The guys we are acquiring are mostly very far away from the majors.    

[eddie83]

3 minutes ago, Going Underground said:

But Houston might have the highest payroll next year. I doubt the Orioles will ever be close to the top.

I don’t expect that. I just want to see early extensions for position players and real spending on SP when the time warrants.  

[weams]

2 minutes ago, Going Underground said:

But Houston might have the highest payroll next year. I doubt the Orioles will ever be close to the top.

Not until they move to Houston. No Siree

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

One takeaway I have from these trades is that Elias thinks our next window is pretty far away.    The guys we are acquiring are mostly very far away from the majors.    

Naw, these are the pipeline guys that will keep the window open.

[Moose Milligan]

10 minutes ago, oriole said:

This is exactly the type of package I was afraid of getting for Bundy. Absolute bust in my eyes. I’d rather watch Bundy pitch. I’m not gonna be dramatic because it’s part of a rebuild but this is just as much of a salary dump as the Villar trade was. Absolutely no value coming back between the two trades.

You got some lottery numbers to play, too?  

[interloper]

Just now, Frobby said:

One takeaway I have from these trades is that Elias thinks our next window is pretty far away.    The guys we are acquiring are mostly very far away from the majors.    

I think it's more about that "pipeline" than any actual window. He's just getting whatever he can that he likes. And our pieces are such that there's more value in getting lower minors guys. 

But also yeah. Our window is a couple years into the Hall/Rutsch era realistically. 

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Enjoy Terror said:

I'm thinking Bundy's gaff during the 9/12 game last year didn't do him any favors with the O's brass.

I don't think it was a factor.

[oriole]

5 minutes ago, interloper said:

We just don't know if there's no value. I thought the whole idea with Elias and Sig is they might actually be able to develop guys and tweak fringey guys. No one believes in that possibility anymore?

I didn’t want to see Bundy traded for low level lottery ticket type of players. I know the next few years are lost years but someone has to pitch and I’d rather watch a guy like Bundy who I can root for and wish well for his career than have a few guys who will very likely never make the majors. I’m no scout, I’ll leave the optimism about the players up to those who are familiar with them. I was just really hoping if Bundy was traded, it’d be for at least one prospect worth hoping on. Otherwise I’d be happy to watch him pitch on a 100+ loss team.

[weams]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

One takeaway I have from these trades is that Elias thinks our next window is pretty far away.    The guys we are acquiring are mostly very far away from the majors.    

Yes. But these are college pitchers. One of them pitched in A+ in the Cal league. Like Tillman!