Fangraphs: Do you really want to Hurt Me?

[OsEatAlEast]

29 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

If anything, Angelos has spent to a fault. Davis being the most egregious example. Most of the time it has been on ill fated players that were not enough to put us over the top. Angelos is more stupid than cheap. I would be OK with cheap if it meant going full Tampa Bay mode.

I'd say more a know it all that didn't know it all. I think being a lawyer takes a completely different skill set than being a baseball owner.

[Can_of_corn]

2 hours ago, Frobby said:

From May 2011:

 

If you are one of thirty groups running a test and 29 groups get one result and you get a different result it might be wise to change your methodology.

[jjnono]

23 hours ago, weams said:

The Orioles were always cheap until Angelos decided to go after Albert Belle. 

I was always under the impression - rightly or wrongly - that it was kind of the inverse effect; that Angelos had always been willing to spend $$, until the Albert Belle deal ultimately instilled in him a fearful reluctance to bite on a big deal.  I'm not sure that's the same thing as becoming cheap, but the hyper-intense focus on medical evaluations and the lack of interest in signing pitchers to long term deals, I'm pretty sure that stems in some part from the Albert Belle fiasco...  All of which made the Chris Davis contract so spectacularly head-shaking... there was so much to be concerned about.

[weams]

1 minute ago, jjnono said:

I was always under the impression - rightly or wrongly - that it was kind of the inverse effect; that Angelos had always been willing to spend $$, until the Albert Belle deal ultimately instilled in him a fearful reluctance to bite on a big deal.  I'm not sure that's the same thing as becoming cheap, but the hyper-intense focus on medical evaluations and the lack of interest in signing pitchers to long term deals, I'm pretty sure that stems in some part from the Albert Belle fiasco...  All of which made the Chris Davis contract so spectacularly head-shaking... there was so much to be concerned about.

Peter was very old.   His team had been good with that player. The first base white whale. Scott Boras took advantage of those things. As is his right and his nature. 

[jjnono]

1 minute ago, weams said:

Peter was very old.   His team had been good with that player. The first base white whale. Scott Boras took advantage of those things. As is his right and his nature. 

Alone in his senescence... fearful and unsure... "Sure, Scott, let's do this..."

[Enjoy Terror]

I've never thought Peter Angelos was cheap but I've seen the Orioles spend stupid amounts of money in stupid ways.

 

It's all been fairly recently too. Ubaldo was mistake. Gallardo was a mistake. Davis was a mistake. Trumbo was a mistake. And all four were obviously mistakes from the get-go. 

[Can_of_corn]

7 minutes ago, Enjoy Terror said:

I've never thought Peter Angelos was cheap but I've seen the Orioles spend stupid amounts of money in stupid ways.

 

It's all been fairly recently too. Ubaldo was mistake. Gallardo was a mistake. Davis was a mistake. Trumbo was a mistake. And all four were obviously mistakes from the get-go. 

Roberts, Hardy.

[weams]

I own thy speechless, placeless power

[AuburnAL]

4 hours ago, weams said:

I own thy speechless, placeless power

This could win the award for 2019's best use of a Herman Melville quote in OH. 

In fact, let's give the medal right now.

" ...but to the last gasp of my earthquake life will dispute its unconditional, unintegral mastery in me."

Happy New Year