Cobb to Angels

[Morgan423]

1 hour ago, RZNJ said:

Jones minor league stats don't look too good but I just read a pretty encouraging BA article that said he hit very well in 2019 in AA after he ditched suggested swing changes and went back to his original swing.  Over .300 in the 2nd half and a .885 OPS in the AFL.  Described as athletic and a good kid.

I've heard this is sometimes a problem in the low / mid minors in various organizations.  5 different coaches tell you to try 5 different changes to what you're doing and you get knocked off your game trying to implement it all.  If he's found what works for him and it looks like it'll play in the MLB...  that's good stuff.

I really like this trade.

 

[BRobinsonfan]

I like the trade.  We lose a 33 year old pitcher who has been a bust for us for 3 years, dump some salary, and get a legitimate prospect in return.  

[bpilktree]

If we save just $6 million that would be great then go sign Franco 1/3 million and a veteran starter or two in the $1-2 million range and start the season.   
 

c Severino

1B Mancini

2B Sanchez

Ss Galvis

3B Franco

LF Mountcastle

CF Hayes

RF Santander

Dh Stewart

Bench 

Sisco

Valika 
Mullins 

Davis until we officially cut him

Urias

[BirdinBama]

I'm pleasantly surprised with this deal.

[NCRaven]

Fangraphs will have an article up on this tomorrow.   Ben Cooper felt the trade made sense for both teams.

[NCRaven]

Baseball-Reference.com projections, they obviously think he'll start the season in the minors since they're only projecting 186 AB.  But, I'd take that line for a rookie second baseman.

 

Year	Tm	Age	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	TB	GDP	HBP	SH	SF	IBB	Rel
2021	Proj.	23	209	186	28	47	9	1	7	26	3	1	20	49	.253	.333	.425	.758	79	4	3	0	1	1	3

[Tony-OH]

Getting Jahmai Jones in return for Cobb while getting rid of some of that salary is a pretty good deal overall for the Orioles. Jones is interesting because he has some upside to him, even if he ends up more of a utility outfield, second base guy. 

It will be interesting to see if Elias is allowed to use that money he saved to get a guy like Franco in at 3B or a veteran starting pitcher that could be potentially moved for prospects at the trading deadline this season.

As a 40-man roster guy, he will get his opportunity in the spring but I imagine he's heading to AAA to start the year.

[Frobby]

2 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

Yea, remember the Angels system stinks, so being a top 10 guy in that system means nothing.  As was said, maybe he’s top 15, at best, in our system..probably a little lower but perhaps with more upside than others ahead of him.

As I said, last June Fangraphs rated him a 40+.   For them, that put him on the same tier as Kremer, Akin, Lowther and Adam Hall, somewhere between 11th-15 in our system.   Of course, that was before last year’s draft or Hays graduating off the list, or the nice performances of Akin and Kremer in September.    So, I’d guess they would place him between 14-17 in our system now. My guess is Tony would put him slightly lower.   But in any event, it seems he has some upside, so we’ll see.

[sportsfan8703]

Better than I would’ve ever expected for Cobb. I’m actually glad that Jones could use some more milb seasoning. That’s better for us long term. 
 

Great trade. 

[Yardball85]

1 hour ago, bpilktree said:

If we save just $6 million that would be great then go sign Franco 1/3 million and a veteran starter or two in the $1-2 million range and start the season.   
 

c Severino

1B Mancini

2B Sanchez

Ss Galvis

3B Franco

LF Mountcastle

CF Hayes

RF Santander

Dh Stewart

Bench 

Sisco

Valika 
Mullins 

Davis until we officially cut him

Urias

I feel like as was the case last year, third base is Ruiz's job to lose.  I expect a Millone/LeBlanc signing or two and they'll go to ST with that.  I'd be pleasantly surprised if they sign Franco and take a flyer on an Archer-type.

[Roll Tide]

Nice job .... interested to get the full details once announced 

[Tony-OH]

10 minutes ago, Frobby said:

As I said, last June Fangraphs rated him a 40+.   For them, that put him on the same tier as Kremer, Akin, Lowther and Adam Hall, somewhere between 11th-15 in our system.   Of course, that was before last year’s draft or Hays graduating off the list, or the nice performances of Akin and Kremer in September.    So, I’d guess they would place him between 14-17 in our system now. My guess is Tony would put him slightly lower.   But in any event, it seems he has some upside, so we’ll see.

Preliminarily I'd put him at 19 ahead of Alex Wells and behind the two high ceiling high school draft picks and two international league guys. I like hearing about the good statcast info even during his "down year" in AA in 2019. I have a bigger issue with him getting moved a round a bit defensively with a pretty high error % at 2B. 

If he were a shortstop of could play there it would give him more value of course. 

[HowAboutThat]

19 minutes ago, Yardball85 said:

I feel like as was the case last year, third base is Ruiz's job to lose.  

He will. Rather have Bannon or Valaika. Not sure whether the new guy can play 3B, or if Sanchez can handle 3B but Ruiz offers so little theres no reason not to try them out instead of him.

[jerios55]

This may be the first time I've ever seen a trade were no one thinks it's bad (on our side). 

Way to go O's.

[HowAboutThat]

12 minutes ago, jerios55 said:

This may be the first time I've ever seen a trade were no one thinks it's bad (on our side). 

Way to go O's.

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