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This is the Baltimore Orioles, we don't trade pitchers that are going to walk -see Ryan, B.J. We'd rather keep said player because we are going to compete, waste draft picks on medicocre signings, keep all our young pitching until it shows it is ineffective or gets injured (God forbid we trade any of it, cause one day they'll all be aces) That's the plan!

BJ Ryan

1) signed the richest contract in the history of closers, should we have signed him earlier? Yes, but with Ray here there was no urgency to throw money at Ryan.

2) Should we have traded him? Yes. This is a glaring mistake.

But you know what, in the past! Its not like he is hurting us. The Jays made a huge mistake giving him that money, he has had season ending surgery and there is not telling how he will recover from it next year. I have often said that he will not see year 3 of that contract in Toronto, I stick by it.

Also, the Orioles HAVE traded young pitching before. Those trades have had debatable success (ie Maine.) But they HAVE done it before. The reason they did not trade BJ Ryan is because the Orioles thought they could resign him, then the Jays made him the richest closer in the history of the game.

Would YOU have given him that contract?

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I'm not too sure that the question was answered. I don't mean to be rude here because you're offering the information up without being required to under any circumstances... But I don't understand the "hence he's head of baseball operations" part, nor do I understand how it's related to a lowball offer prior to him being in the organization.

Ok Im saying now that Macpahil is encharge hopefully philosophies will change. And hopefully low ball offers will stop and our GM's dont have to run to PA to get approval.

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Not necessarily in the short run. He is still under the clubs control for quite a while so while trading him now might net the best return there isn't really a sense of urgency. That applies even if we knew w/100% certainty that an extension was impossible.

They can sit down in the offseason, tell him that the MacPhail way is different and try to sell him on signing an extension. If not they'll still get a ton of value next July if he pitches well.

Bingo. I compeletely agree.

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It's interesting to note that there isn't a scent of this "potential deal" on the SOSH board, where the fans are as diehard as those here on OH.

Thats because it just went public in agent circles today. It was news to me when my guy told me.

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