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  1. 1. Will Adley Rutschman be on the Opening Day roster

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6 minutes ago, Pickles said:

Because if you bring him up too early, he wins the award and gets the service time anyway.

He doesn’t have to win it to get the service time.  Wander was high in the voting last year and played half or so of the season.  You don’t wait until July. Just doesn’t make sense.

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I said this in another thread but I'll repeat it here. It will be interesting to see how it shakes out, but I think Rutschman starts on opening day for the Orioles for several reasons. He's th

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Piazza won RoY in '93.  In the following 28 years, only two other catchers won, Soto '08 and Posey '10.    Rutschman is a consensus #1, but so was Franco, and the small market Rays kept him down until

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He should have made the opening day roster in the shortened 2020 season. 

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He doesn’t have to win it to get the service time.  Wander was high in the voting last year and played half or so of the season.  You don’t wait until July. Just doesn’t make sense.

If you bring him up 4/15, and he's 3/4s of the player people are expecting him to be, he's finishing in the top 3 of ROY.

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6 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Ok

It only makes sense to bring him up 4/7 or slow play him out until I would say at least June 15.

With the change in calculation Opening Day makes the most sense.

Damn shame.  If they'd known this we'd have gotten to see him last year.

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There’s no reason he shouldn’t be the OD starter so that means he won’t be on the roster.  And then we’ll get some lame excuse about how he needs some more time at Bowie or Norfolk to work on things. 
 

I’m not advocating for that. I just think the Orioles could ruin pizza so they’ll most likely botch this. 

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4 minutes ago, Pickles said:

It only makes sense to bring him up 4/7 or slow play him out until I would say at least June 15.

With the change in calculation Opening Day makes the most sense.

Damn shame.  If they'd known this we'd have gotten to see him last year.

No, it makes sense to get him up soon.  There is no guarantee he finishes high in ROY.  He could have a very solid year and still not finish in the top 3.  Just depends on other rookies.  If you want to get your extra year, do it and then go from there.

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25 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

No, it makes sense to get him up soon.  There is no guarantee he finishes high in ROY.  He could have a very solid year and still not finish in the top 3.  Just depends on other rookies.  If you want to get your extra year, do it and then go from there.

I mean, that's your position.  Fair enough.

Remember, I'm bearish on him compared to the consensus.  And I'm still pretty confident if he plays 90% of the season, he's going to finish in the Top 3 for ROY.

I would like clarification of the quality of the pick before I solidified my position.

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3 hours ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

I say yes, but it's wishcasting on my part. Rutschman is easily the best catcher in the organization and it's not even close. 

Not only the best catcher in the org, but the best available including all free agents.

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1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:

I said this in another thread but I'll repeat it here.

It will be interesting to see how it shakes out, but I think Rutschman starts on opening day for the Orioles for several reasons.

He's the #1 prospect in baseball and has already performed well in AAA. He's 24-years old and a catcher which means he won't be eligible for free agency until he'll be playing in 31 old season and for a catcher, that could be very, very old. . 

Age 30, not 31.

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Are the new rules about award voting just tacked on to the system we already had? In other words, if he doesn’t place high in any voting would we still benefit by manipulating service time?
 

And if so… if we don’t manipulate the service time and he also finishes top two in ROY voting do we effectively lose two years of team control?? And if that is accurate then what is the benefit? More games played for a bad team now then what we hope are good teams in few years… plus maybe an extra draft pick if he manages to place top five in MVP voting?

If I got all that right the choice is either “screw the future, we want Adley on 4/7” or we keep him down until July. 

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Are the new rules about award voting just tacked on to the system we already had? In other words, if he doesn’t place high in any voting would we still benefit by manipulating service time?
 

And if so… if we don’t manipulate the service time and he also finishes top two in ROY voting do we effectively lose two years of team control?? And if that is accurate then what is the benefit? More games played for a bad team now then what we hope are good teams in few years… plus maybe an extra draft pick if he manages to place top five in MVP voting?

If I got all that right the choice is either “screw the future, we want Adley on 4/7” or we keep him down until July. 

No.

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From what I’ve seen draft pick is after first round but before second. Exact position is dependent on other factors.

48 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm assuming they are going to have some sort of wording to indicate that teams are operating in good faith with promotions.

 

I don’t think the wording has been changed @Orangebasically has it correct 

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