Catcher James McCann Acquired from Mets

[Roll Tide]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

I feel better about the deal now.

It's a fine move.  

We got a Chirinos comp spending an additional 1.65 million per season and we are stuck with him for two years. 
 

Would you have brought back Chirinos for 2.5 million?

They we’re nearly identical hitters and Chirinos had a DWAR of .5 versus -.1.

[Redskins Rick]

8 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

We got a Chirinos comp spending an additional 1.65 million per season and we are stuck with him for two years. 
 

Would you have brought back Chirinos for 2.5 million?

They we’re nearly identical hitters and Chirinos had a DWAR of .5 versus -.1.

Can I take Option C , and neither of these two?

[Can_of_corn]

10 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

We got a Chirinos comp spending an additional 1.65 million per season and we are stuck with him for two years. 
 

Would you have brought back Chirinos for 2.5 million?

They we’re nearly identical hitters and Chirinos had a DWAR of .5 versus -.1.

He's projected at an 86 wRC+ next season and is an upgrade on defense.

Hopefully he can get a few more balls in the air.

[owknows]

2 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

We got a Chirinos comp spending an additional 1.65 million per season and we are stuck with him for two years. 
 

Would you have brought back Chirinos for 2.5 million?

They we’re nearly identical hitters and Chirinos had a DWAR of .5 versus -.1.

Chirinos is 38.

If you inked him for 2 years, he'd be 40.

Maybe that played into the decision a little.

Is this a stellar deal? No.

But he's a cheap backup catcher coming off a down year. If he gives us what he produced in 2018,19, 20 with the bat and plays replacement level baseball behind the plate, he's OK by me.

[Roll Tide]

1 minute ago, owknows said:

Chirinos is 38.

If you inked him for 2 years, he'd be 40.

Maybe that played into the decision a little.

Is this a stellar deal? No.

But he's a cheap backup catcher coming off a down year. If he gives us what he produced in 2018,19, 20 with the bat and plays replacement level baseball behind the plate, he's OK by me.

You wouldn’t have to give 2 years to Chirinos. If you aunt had balls…..well you know. McCann been bad for 2 years and we can dream of the previous seasons but it’s extremely unlikely. 
 

Chirinos was 700k ….how is being locked into McCann for 5 million over 2 years cheap. 

[Roll Tide]

5 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

He's projected at an 86 wRC+ next season and is an upgrade on defense.

Hopefully he can get a few more balls in the air.

Projected …. I’m projecting he’s going to suck! 
 

Seriously, as I mentioned his DWAR is actually worse than Chirinos by .6. 

[owknows]

4 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

You wouldn’t have to give 2 years to Chirinos. If you aunt had balls…..well you know. McCann been bad for 2 years and we can dream of the previous seasons but it’s extremely unlikely. 
 

Chirinos was 700k ….how is being locked into McCann for 5 million over 2 years cheap. 

I think you're investing an awful lot of emotional capital in trying to draw a distinction between two barely replacement-level backup catchers.

[Sports Guy]

Really wish we had expanded this deal to end up with Carrasco.

[Sports Guy]

His framing was in the 62nd percentile. 

[eddie83]

I hate it. Take on $5M and he blocks Andres Noylala a soon to be 18 year old on the DSL Orange team in 2022. 

[Sports Guy]

Wait a minute…WHAT!?!?!!

80 games?  WTF!?!?

If that’s the case, this goes from meh to what in the hell are they thinking?

[eddie83]

Just now, Sports Guy said:

Wait a minute…WHAT!?!?!!

80 games?  WTF!?!?

If that’s the case, this goes from meh to what in the hell are they thinking?

40 at catcher. 40 elsewhere. 

[eddie83]

Elias plan is coming into place. Trying to create a platoon type team.

 

Not saying this will happen but there is nothing stopping them from adding another C as the 26th player. Once again not saying they will. 

[eddie83]

With current infield mix they do not need to carry a traditional utility player. 

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Wait a minute…WHAT!?!?!!

80 games?  WTF!?!?

If that’s the case, this goes from meh to what in the hell are they thinking?

Yea, that's questionable at best.