Any thoughts on Mike Bauman going to the bullpen role?

[Sports Guy]

Baumann has some bad statcast numbers 

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/mike-baumann-657508?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb

He’s fine. He’s nothing special right now. Probably not someone you trust in high leverage situations at the moment unless things are going really well but Hyde didn’t have a ton of options last night outside of staying with Bautista and even if he had, he still may have had to use Baumann in the 11th anyway.

I will say this though..it wouldn’t shock me if Baumann put together some really good seasons in the future. He has the stuff but the command control aren’t there yet. 
 

That said, I trust him more than Fuji, so I would send down Fuji before Baumann.

The Coloumbe injury has really hurt the back end of the pen.  Perez has looked better, which is helpful but still, they need more. 

Edited August 23, 2023 by Sports Guy

[TopGunnar]

We’re not going to see much more of Mike Baumann. 

[mall-O-cup]

To be honest, I get a queasy feeling in my stomach whenever he comes into a game.

[Jim'sKid26]

I think Big Mike might have just failed the audition for inclusion in the post season bull pen. 

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, Aristotelian said:

That's a bit of an overstatement. I would agree Atlanta's chances of scoring at least one went way up. 

Why?  Is Baumann so bad that he affects the outcomes of games played hundreds of miles from where he’s pitching?

[The B&G]

5 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Why?  Is Baumann so bad that he affects the outcomes of games played hundreds of miles from where he’s pitching?

My softball team had a big night offensively last night, can't help but wonder if Mike had something to do with that

[Moose Milligan]

11 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Why?  Is Baumann so bad that he affects the outcomes of games played hundreds of miles from where he’s pitching?

Baumann is the reason why the price of sushi went up at my favorite asian joint here in town.

[Frobby]

To my surprise, Baumann hasn’t pitched that badly in high leverage situations this year (opposing hitters have hit 205/.280/.432).  I’m just never confident in the guy.  I don’t feel like he ever really knows where his pitches are going.  And, he’s been terrible with inherited runners (42% have scored), so having him in the game in extra innings just feels like a disaster waiting to happen.  Truth is, the two other times he pitched in extras, he held the opponents scoreless and picked up the win both times.  So he’s not really as unreliable as he feels to me.  

[Frobby]

2 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Baumann is the reason why the price of sushi went up at my favorite asian joint here in town.

Oh. I thought it was Colby Rasmus.

[Moose Milligan]

Just now, Frobby said:

Oh. I thought it was Colby Rasmus.

Colby Rasmus is why we're having a drought and are on water restrictions.  

[baltfan]

1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

Baumann has some bad statcast numbers 

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/mike-baumann-657508?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb

He’s fine. He’s nothing special right now. Probably not someone you trust in high leverage situations at the moment unless things are going really well but Hyde didn’t have a ton of options last night outside of staying with Bautista and even if he had, he still may have had to use Baumann in the 11th anyway.

I will say this though..it wouldn’t shock me if Baumann put together some really good seasons in the future. He has the stuff but the command control aren’t there yet. 
 

That said, I trust him more than Fuji, so I would send down Fuji before Baumann.

The Coloumbe injury has really hurt the back end of the pen.  Perez has looked better, which is helpful but still, they need more. 

Fuji is better than Bauman at the moment.  At least Fuji's stuff plays.  Bauman is getting lit up and his stuff seems to be not as good as it was.  Neither of them do a good job with runners on.  Replace Bauman with Means or Hall.  Maybe send Fuji down for whichever of Hall or Means comes up second.  

Bauman at one point in time this season was good for the Orioles.  But Baker was maybe the best reliever on the team in April and he is gone.  Wells was one of the best starters, and he is gone.

Edited August 23, 2023 by baltfan

[Sports Guy]

6 minutes ago, baltfan said:

Fuji is better than Bauman at the moment.  At least Fuji's stuff plays.  Bauman is getting lit up and his stuff seems to be not as good as it was.  Neither of them do a good job with runners on.  Replace Bauman with Means or Hall.  Maybe send Fuji down for whichever of Hall or Means comes up second.  

Bauman at one point in time this season was good for the Orioles.  But Baker was maybe the best reliever on the team in April and he is gone.  Wells was one of the best starters, and he is gone.

Fuji has a 7 ERA this month…Baumann is at 5.59. Baumann has less walks in more IP.

Fuji has a better K rate.  Both have given up 2 homers this month. Baumann has done it in more innings.

Edited August 23, 2023 by Sports Guy

[vab]

Baumann looks cooked to me. A home run, a double, a long fly out and a wild pitch in probably less than 10 pitches is more than just a bad outing. Remember, this is a guy who has started pretty much his whole career until the last couple of years. He's never done this before and I think he has run out of gas. I wouldn't be surprised to see him land on the IL with some sort of soreness in the next day or two with Voth taking his spot. 

[panick]

2 hours ago, AdamK said:

Had to look at Bauman's game logs because it feels like he has been grooving pitches middle/middle lately. This certainly was the case last night in the 10th where his first 3 pitches were a homer, a double and a loud fly ball (out) to CF... then a wild pitch shortly after. 

Feels like his last outing was the same story in Seattle (the Mullins robbed a homer, next at bat is a homer game...) but that was 10 days ago with 2 scoreless appearances in-between. 

 

At this rate, he's too volatile to keep in our pen.

 

Your game stats chart does not show inherited runners scored.

Maybe having even one runner on base when he comes into a game is too much pressure for Baumann.

[Orioles Jim]

https://x.com/baltimoreluke/status/1694387162848829726?s=46&t=eD_XXnce6RpM2gEfRbtV3w
 

Baumann being demoted. While I agree with SG that his performance has been nothing special and I’m not upset over his demotion, was hoping for someone a little more exciting than Voth to be his replacement.