Creed Willems 2023

[Can_of_corn]

7 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Look at what they've done.   When they saw a player they thought was worthy of draft position and the money they did it TWICE even when that player wasn't the consensus #1 player.    

They did?

When?

[Sports Guy]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

They did?

When?

I would guess he was referring to Kjerstad and Cowser.

[Frobby]

It’s going to be 5 years before we have a clue whether Cowser is better than Lawlar and if Creed Willems is a major leaguer.  So, I don’t feel Elias has been proven right or wrong.  

My overall feeling is that making consistently good picks is more important than getting one pick exactly right.   And, I feel it’s obvious Elias has done that.  
 

[RZNJ]

6 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

They did?

When?

They took Rutschman and Holliday.   Holliday wasn't the consensus #1 player.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, RZNJ said:

They took Rutschman and Holliday.   Holliday wasn't the consensus #1 player.

They didn't pay either of them slot.  Holliday got like 5K more than Jones.

[RZNJ]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

They didn't pay either of them slot.  Holliday got like 5K more than Jones.

They paid them the going rate.   Let's not split hairs.   They didn't look to do a Henry Davis deal like the Pirates did.

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

They paid them the going rate.   Let's not split hairs.   They didn't look to do a Henry Davis deal like the Pirates did.

Witt signed for full slot at 1-2, Jones signed for over slot at 1-2;  Torkelson signed for over slot at at 1-1.

How is underslot the going rate?

[RZNJ]

7 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Witt signed for full slot at 1-2, Jones signed for over slot at 1-2;  Torkelson signed for over slot at at 1-1.

How is underslot the going rate?

Most normal posters get what I was saying.     You have issues.

[btdart20]

7 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Witt signed for full slot at 1-2, Jones signed for over slot at 1-2;  Torkelson signed for over slot at at 1-1.

How is underslot the going rate?

Adley and Jackson were slot.  Are you suggesting they should have given them more?  Regardless, I look at your examples and it sheds an even more favorable light on how Elias has handled the draft.  Especially the 1.1 picks.

[btdart20]

28 minutes ago, Frobby said:

It’s going to be 5 years before we have a clue whether Cowser is better than Lawlar and if Creed Willems is a major leaguer.  So, I don’t feel Elias has been proven right or wrong.  

My overall feeling is that making consistently good picks is more important than getting one pick exactly right.   And, I feel it’s obvious Elias has done that.  
 

Agreed.  I prefer to focus on the trends more than individual pick analysis.  

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, btdart20 said:

Adley and Jackson were slot.  

They were not slot.

I have no issue with the picks.  But they were both underslot choices.  Money was saved.

[Can_of_corn]

5 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Most normal posters get what I was saying.     You have issues.

Most folks just don't want to bother engaging with you.

You stated something that was not factually correct.

[EdwinRip]

At least Creed Willems is getting some notice with this thread!

[owknows]

4 minutes ago, EdwinRip said:

At least Creed Willems is getting some notice with this thread!

LOL...  Nice to see his name showing up at the top of the post list...

Even if is partly due to argue-bump activity

[btdart20]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

They were not slot.

I have no issue with the picks.  But they were both underslot choices.  Money was saved.

Adley was the record signing bonuses at the time.  I believe Jackson  is only behind Tork’s overpay in the history books.  If it quacks like a slot and swims like a slot…

If we’re asking these questions about our signings, imagine being a Tiger fan!  1.1 don’t really have bargaining power and to still blow the top off the bonus is silly.  Get in the ballpark and they’ll sign.