Specific Trade Ideas

[jrobb21613]

With ownership showing year over year that they’re not willing to significantly increase payroll wouldn’t it be foolish to part with cheap controllable talent for what a 2 month rental? Unless we’re getting a guy back with at least 2 plus years control I wouldn’t part with any of our top 10 prospects. I could see a mlb player like Urias moved along with AAA guys like stowers and vavra moved, hopefully for middle relieve. 

[wildcard]

I'd be searching for a team that values Stowers, Norby and/or Prieto.

Here are the players that may hit the market on teams that might be sellers that I think might help the O's even as rentals. 

Ohtani    Angels

Gioloto    WS

Montgomery   Cards

Stroman    Cubs

E Rod    Tigers

Snell   SD

Robertson  Mets

Raley       Mets

Middleton    WS

Cisneros   Tigers

Hader   SD

Most would take more than the O's want to give up.

I would be watching Means, Voth and  Perez on their rehab to see if trades are even necessary.  

I expect GRod to be added soon and Irvin to go to the pen when he does.

[Three Run Homer]

3 hours ago, Orioles0615 said:

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trades/trade-143447/ 

 

Anyone do this?

Not giving up Mayo for a rental, even if it's Ohtani.  But I would give up Ortiz, Fabian and Norby plus throw ins like Stowers.  I would consider giving up Westburg or Basallo instead of Ortiz if that's what it would take.   It's freaking Shohei Ohtani.  

[RZNJ]

1 minute ago, Three Run Homer said:

Not giving up Mayo for a rental, even if it's Ohtani.  But I would give up Ortiz, Fabian and Norby plus throw ins like Stowers.  I would consider giving up Westburg or Basallo instead of Ortiz if that's what it would take.   It's freaking Shohei Ohtani.  

Not going to happen but Mayo straight up for Ohtani would be tough to say no to.   An Ace and a MOTH for a power hitting 1B who might be a good or great ML power hitter.   Love Mayo but that might be a deal with the devil that I’d make.

[ShoelesJoe]

14 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Not going to happen but Mayo straight up for Ohtani would be tough to say no to.   An Ace and a MOTH for a power hitting 1B who might be a good or great ML power hitter.   Love Mayo but that might be a deal with the devil that I’d make.

It’s an interesting site, but it feels like it undervalues rising prospects. I don’t know how often player numbers are updated, but Mayo’s value right now has to be exponentially higher than it was two months ago. Not sure the site reflects that. 

[Orioles0615]

3 hours ago, Three Run Homer said:

Not giving up Mayo for a rental, even if it's Ohtani.  But I would give up Ortiz, Fabian and Norby plus throw ins like Stowers.  I would consider giving up Westburg or Basallo instead of Ortiz if that's what it would take.   It's freaking Shohei Ohtani.  

I mean I like Mayo but where is he going to play? Especially if Heston is going to be a 1b eventually 

[Roll Tide]

16 minutes ago, Orioles0615 said:

I mean I like Mayo but where is he going to play? Especially if Heston is going to be a 1b eventually 

Because you have depth you don’t give it away. Rentals aren’t a good investment 

Edited July 16, 2023 by Roll Tide

[RZNJ]

39 minutes ago, Orioles0615 said:

I mean I like Mayo but where is he going to play? Especially if Heston is going to be a 1b eventually 

Kjerstad isn’t going to be the 1B.  Mayo will.  Kjerstad will be RF/DH.   Bank it.

[Sports Guy]

43 minutes ago, Orioles0615 said:

I mean I like Mayo but where is he going to play? Especially if Heston is going to be a 1b eventually 

Why would Heston be at first eventually? And why would you definitively choose HK over Mayo anyway?

He can play the OF.

Zero reason to trade Mayo and even if you did, you don’t do it for a rental.

Edited July 16, 2023 by Sports Guy

[OakOrioles]

14 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

Why do people want to give up so much for rentals?

You think these teams are just going to give up pieces for no name prospects? The Os have one of the best systems - other teams know it. I’m not saying Mayo has to be included but we are going to have to deal from our talent pool in the minors to add to the majors. 
 

Id rather deal from the outfield or middle infield depth we have, but have to imagine teams are going to start with players like Hall/Mayo (I’d assume teams know JHoll is off the table for the most part… 

[OakOrioles]

4 hours ago, Three Run Homer said:

Not giving up Mayo for a rental, even if it's Ohtani.  But I would give up Ortiz, Fabian and Norby plus throw ins like Stowers.  I would consider giving up Westburg or Basallo instead of Ortiz if that's what it would take.   It's freaking Shohei Ohtani.  

Read your last sentence and then read who you said you would “give up”. Angels would laugh at the offer IMO. 

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, OakOrioles said:

Read your last sentence and then read who you said you would “give up”. Angels would laugh at the offer IMO. 

I think at least one top 100 pitcher is going to be part of an Ohtani package if he gets traded.

[OakOrioles]

4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think at least one top 100 pitcher is going to be part of an Ohtani package if he gets traded.

Agree I think it would have to be, IMO, a top 100 guy and maybe even ML ready talent. 

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, OakOrioles said:

Agree I think it would have to be, IMO, a top 100 guy and maybe even ML ready talent. 

True, the Angels being the Angels  they could be looking for ML talent to try again next season.

[baltfan]

Anyone who thinks you get Ohtani for 1 top 100 guy is nuts.  No chance they give him up for that.   That is about what we got for Machado.  And Machado is no Ohtani.