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Could Elias call up our 19-year old SS phenom?


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10 hours ago, Frobby said:

By oWAR, Jeter was the 4th-best SS all time, behind Honus Wagner, ARod and Nap Lajoie.  So, he’s definitely way up there.   You can debate whether ARod should be considered a SS, and whether he should be DQ’d from consideration for using steroids, but just purely on hitting, he was a better offensive player than Jeter and it’s not particularly close.  

ARod would have surely been the better option at SS all around for the Yankees. Putting him at 3B made them a worse team up the middle. He played so much time at 3B that I don't really consider him a SS in NY. I agree, the comparison of he and Jeter isn't close at all, but it's still crazy to me how much WAR Jeter accrued while being an absolute abomination with the glove.

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2 hours ago, Frobby said:

Especially in 2013.  Davis, Markakis and Jones played 160 games, Hardy 159, Manny 156, Wieters 148, McLouth 146.   That lineup was just about locked in cement.  

I remember when the Yankees' dynasty was winding down, Williams and Posada were moved down in the lineup.  A big deal was made that they hadn't batted anywhere in the lineup but that position for years.  The only constant in the O's lineup has been Adley batting 2nd, but he has moved around recently too.

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On 8/13/2023 at 1:29 PM, brucewayne said:

To be real though, Gunnar is the only one that Holliday isn't going to have a realistic shot to outperform at age 19. And he probably won't be as good as Frazier is in the clutch. Other than, I don't think it's impossible he is the 2nd best infielder in the organization right now. 

Mr. Splash, you've been out in the sun too long or possibly there's something other than water in your gun.

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