Winter Meetings Thread

[interloper]

7 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Which is so short sighted by the WS. 

They remind me so much of pre-Elias Orioles. Or the Angels. Like, what are y'all even doing? No wonder Elias is apparently having an impossible time acquiring Cease. Getz's comments on Cease definitely confirm he is trying to hold out and make teams outbid each other, which is fair and all, but at some point you have to be satisfied with your offers or you're going to get nothing. 

Edited December 5, 2023 by interloper

[Sports Guy]

At least Hyde has the right attitude 

 

 

[Sports Guy]

 

[interloper]

2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

 

Cubs makes sense to me if they think they're out of the Ohtani sweepstakes now. 

[interloper]

6 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

At least Hyde has the right attitude 

 

 

Buck: I like our guys.

Hyde: I like our guys if they're good enough to win. 

 

[Aristotelian]

11 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

At least Hyde has the right attitude 

 

 

Liftoff! Does seem like the tone is shifting but I'll believe it when I see it. 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

8 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

Liftoff! Does seem like the tone is shifting but I'll believe it when I see it. 

I think this will be the off-season where the high profile move will be more than acquiring an innings eating starter. The number of prospects that are MLB ready almost dictates a couple of trades need to happen unless the goal is for Norfolk to win 100+ games in 2024.

 

Edited December 5, 2023 by OsFanSinceThe80s

[oriolediehard]

I wouldn't be surprised that every GM won't talk trade with us without Jackson Holiday in the equation.  The other GM's think much higher of their trade chips than what they are worth. Cease had a high ERA and he is no where near worth a Jackson Holiday. That is my prediction on why the O's can't get anything done.

[Sports Guy]

1 minute ago, oriolediehard said:

I wouldn't be surprised that every GM won't talk trade with us without Jackson Holiday in the equation.  The other GM's think much higher of their trade chips than what they are worth. Cease had a high ERA and he is no where near worth a Jackson Holiday. That is my prediction on why the O's can't get anything done.

Zero chance this is the case.

[interloper]

2 minutes ago, oriolediehard said:

I wouldn't be surprised that every GM won't talk trade with us without Jackson Holiday in the equation.  The other GM's think much higher of their trade chips than what they are worth. Cease had a high ERA and he is no where near worth a Jackson Holiday. That is my prediction on why the O's can't get anything done.

I don't think many teams are asking for Holliday, but I do think they are asking for Kjerstad and Mayo. And I think Elias is having a hard time shifting attention from Kjerstad and Mayo to Cowser and Ortiz/Westburg. That, and we don't have sexy pitching prospects. 

But I honestly do think Kjerstad and Mayo are kind of making Mike's life miserable right now. 

[clapdiddy]

4 minutes ago, oriolediehard said:

I wouldn't be surprised that every GM won't talk trade with us without Jackson Holiday in the equation.  The other GM's think much higher of their trade chips than what they are worth. Cease had a high ERA and he is no where near worth a Jackson Holiday. That is my prediction on why the O's can't get anything done.

I'm pretty sure GMs around the league know that Holliday is not available.

[Can_of_corn]

11 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Zero chance this is the case.

That just assumes the other teams are run by incompetents.

[interloper]

Rangers grab Kirby Yates on a 1 yr deal. Maybe Yates is the guy holding everything up! Open the flood gates!

[Frobby]

10 minutes ago, interloper said:

I don't think many teams are asking for Holliday, but I do think they are asking for Kjerstad and Mayo. And I think Elias is having a hard time shifting attention from Kjerstad and Mayo to Cowser and Ortiz/Westburg. That, and we don't have sexy pitching prospects. 

But I honestly do think Kjerstad and Mayo are kind of making Mike's life miserable right now. 

In my opinion, nobody’s untouchable.  The price of certain guys is higher than for others, is all.  

[interloper]

Just now, Frobby said:

In my opinion, nobody’s untouchable.  The price of certain guys is higher than for others, is all.  

Sure, but it's tough to even figure out what a fair trade for Holliday looks like. If teams are in fact asking about him, that is a LOT of wasted time. But maybe that's the proper negotiation tactic, I don't know. 

As silly as the White Sox are, I can't imagine they are beginning their Cease talks with Holliday. I do very much think they are asking for the next most ridiculous thing, which is some combination of prospects that include Mayo, Kjerstad, Basallo, etc. Everyone except who we are okay with trading, basically. At least for Cease, anyway.