Arbitration demands and offers to be exchanged next Friday (1/12)

[interloper]

Just now, Sports Guy said:

Thats rare.  Os never lose these things.

I thought someone did win somewhat recently, maybe early in the Elias era. But yeah pretty rare. 

[Mooreisbetter27]

2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Thats rare.  Os never lose these things.

The guy who always won that escapes my mind (sure Frobby will come in shortly to tell me) retired a couple years ago.  Think our track record is more spotty since then.  

Edit: Just came to me - Russell Smouse

Edited February 6 by Mooreisbetter27

[Sports Guy]

Just now, Mooreisbetter27 said:

The guy who always won that escapes my mind (sure Frobby will come in shortly to tell me) retired a couple years ago.  Think our track record is more spotty since then.  

Russell Smouse

[Frobby]

17 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Thats rare.  Os never lose these things.

They lost another one a couple of years ago.  And their top Arb lawyer, Russell Smouse, retired several years back.  He was undefeated, I believe.  

[Bahama O's Fan]

Is it just me or does Hays at 6.3 seem a little high FOR THE O'S? I get the feeling we might move on from him if we can get value in a trade. 

[btdart20]

7 minutes ago, Bahama O's Fan said:

Is it just me or does Hays at 6.3 seem a little high FOR THE O'S? I get the feeling we might move on from him if we can get value in a trade. 

This is part of why we need to see what Cowser has to offer.

[Mooreisbetter27]

Webb wins arbitration.  Will make 1m as opposed to the 925k the Orioles offered.

[Can_of_corn]

Since this is the arbitration thread I figured I put this here rather than make a thread for it.

So basically the QO.

He still has one more bite of the arbitration apple.

[SteveA]

Players seem to be doing quite well in arbitration this year vs. the owners 

[Sports Guy]

8 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Since this is the arbitration thread I figured I put this here rather than make a thread for it.

So basically the QO.

He still has one more bite of the arbitration apple.

This is important because this is more on the high end of things and could relate to some of our guys.

It appears that Vladdy was a super 2 guy.

He entered arb in his third year and got paid 7.9M. He then was paid 14.5M last year and will basically get 20M this year. Next year he’s likely in line for 25-30M, depending on how things go.

So, that’s like 70 million that he will make, give or take.  Thats a lot and when discussing these long term contracts and potential pre arb extensions, some of these guys could look to these numbers.

[Sports Guy]

The super 2 stuff really is huge.  Vlad is basically going to make about 20-25M more because of it. 

[Frobby]

7 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

The super 2 stuff really is huge.  Vlad is basically going to make about 20-25M more because of it. 

He’s a little behind Soto, who earned $8.5/17/23/31 mm as a Super 2.   Vladdy is at $7.9/14.5/19.1 so far.  

[DirtyBird]

Seems crazy for a guy whose performance has declined significantly in consecutive seasons to win arbitration

[Sports Guy]

Luckily, Gunnar won’t be a super 2 guy..Adley isn’t either.

Holliday would be if they brought him up from day 1 and he stays up.

[Frobby]

28 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Luckily, Gunnar won’t be a super 2 guy..Adley isn’t either.

Holliday would be if they brought him up from day 1 and he stays up.

Bradish will be one next year.  Grayson probably will be one in 2026.   Kremer had the most service time (2.112) of any player who missed Super 2 this year (2.118 was the cutoff).