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EddeeEddee Major Leaguer

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12 hours ago, OnlyOneOriole said:

I've talked about it in other threads.   When you have players like Hays, Mateo, Kemp, and Urias playing 90% of the time?  (and I don't mean all 4 at once but at least 2 and sometimes 3 at once)

 

You are going to struggle.  None of them are good or even average professional hitters imo.  Hays can get hot for 2 weeks but then he is cold for 2 months.

 

Add in guys like Mullins, who let's face it has not been good for 2 years now, and guys like O'Hearn?  Who had a career year last year?  Lets face it that is not murderers row. 

Or even close to it. 

We all tend to over rate 'our guys'.  But when 4-5 of our guys in any given starting lineup suck?   Then our overall line up sucks.  No matter how good the other 4-5 guys are. 

I said this last year in the 'we will not win the WS' thread and got crucified for it, but the O's talent level is not great with their current starters....which are basically the same as last year.  When push comes to shove I would rather live and die with guys like Heston, Holliday, Mayo and Stowers than the 4 guys I mentioned above. 

None of that addresses the question.  O'Hearn, Mateo and McCann have better BA and OPS numbers than Gunnar, Santander and Westburg so far this year.  But it's silly to draw conclusions from any of that less than two weeks into the season. 

 

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Yeah the O's are scuffling a bit on offense, but it's less than two weeks into the season and it's cold out. 

Still, the one change that should happen now is for Holliday to be promoted over Kemp.  No controversy there.  

Hays is the really frustrating one.  He was one of the red hot ones early last season while Mounty was the one so hot and cold.  Hays has got to show something soon or he won't even be a platoon player much longer.

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