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Please REREAD it, then REREAD it again. There is nothing in that sentence, whatsoever, that states that the Cubs need Sherrill to go to the playoffs. It simply states that the Cubs will not go to the playoffs with Marshall, Beimel or Ryan. PERIOD. Nothing more, nothing less. You are reading the insinuation into it. I am flat out telling you there is no insinuation, and I am Sherrill's brother. There is no need for me to insinuate that any team needs him, irregardless of who it is.

Then what the hell was the purpose of that post?

And Marshall can easily be a team's left handed specialist he's been extremely good in the pen, and sports an OPS against lefties of around .530. I can't tell if you're arguing against that or not.

They're problems have been offensive, not with pitching, so I don't get why you're talking about they're pen and then saying they won't go to the playoffs with Marshall or the other two as their guys.

IF your stating the Cubs pen has been a problem, you need to go back and look at the numbers.

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Then what the hell was the purpose of that post?

And Marshall can easily be a team's left handed specialist he's been extremely good in the pen, and sports an OPS against lefties of around .530. I can't tell if you're arguing against that or not.

They're problems have been offensive, not with pitching, so I don't get why you're talking about they're pen and then saying they won't go to the playoffs with Marshall or the other two as their guys.

IF your stating the Cubs pen has been a problem, you need to go back and look at the numbers.

The purpose of the post was that they need to improve wherever they can. Yes, they need more bats to step up, but there are other needs too.

Sure, Marshall can be their LOOGY, but I don't think that is what they want him there for. There is no doubt, he is going to be a good pitcher. Glad he has found a niche in the pen.

The Cubs are looking for pitching, not a bat, really. That is why the subject came up in the first place. Their bullpen has been the best in the NL Central, if you take Jake Fox out of the picture. The bullpen has been where it has failed them in the past, and I think it will happen again. Sure, I could be wrong -- who's not wrong sometimes (or most of the time for that matter). I just think the Cubs are a couple of pieces away from putting things together. If some of the bats they already have start to show up, plus the pen continues where they are going, then yes, they can make they playoffs. However, that is a lot of "if's".

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The purpose of the post was that they need to improve wherever they can. Yes, they need more bats to step up, but there are other needs too.

Sure, Marshall can be their LOOGY, but I don't think that is what they want him there for. There is no doubt, he is going to be a good pitcher. Glad he has found a niche in the pen.

The Cubs are looking for pitching, not a bat, really. That is why the subject came up in the first place. Their bullpen has been the best in the NL Central, if you take Jake Fox out of the picture. The bullpen has been where it has failed them in the past, and I think it will happen again. Sure, I could be wrong -- who's not wrong sometimes (or most of the time for that matter). I just think the Cubs are a couple of pieces away from putting things together. If some of the bats they already have start to show up, plus the pen continues where they are going, then yes, they can make they playoffs. However, that is a lot of "if's".

Jake Fox is a utility fielder and bench bat. What are you even talking about?

I guess I should just leave this topic alone.

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I just heard Roch on the Marks show....He mentioned the Angels & Brandon Wood specifically. He mentioned that Am doesnt need to move George. But that a Major League Ready next year 3rd baseman would likely be the motivating factor.

I assume he was just throwing Wood's name out there as the type of player we'd want in return. He didn't say there had been any talks, right?

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I assume he was just throwing Wood's name out there as the type of player we'd want in return. He didn't say there had been any talks, right?

He mentioned the 4 teams the thread was written about. He said that McPhail was in a "What are you offering Mode". I believe he said Wood would be the type of guy that he thought would motivate the Orioles to make a move.

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Jake Fox is a utility fielder and bench bat. What are you even talking about?

I guess I should just leave this topic alone.

Jake Fox has also pitched this year (0.1 IP, 5 ER). He counts on the bullpen stats. That is why I said, if you leave him out, then the Cubs lead the NL Central. Go look it up, if you don't believe me.

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Jake Fox has also pitched this year (0.1 IP, 5 ER). He counts on the bullpen stats. That is why I said, if you leave him out, then the Cubs lead the NL Central. Go look it up, if you don't believe me.

I looked it up. Jake Fox has never pitched in a major-league game.

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Ah. But that changes the argument somewhat, because it wasn't just a fluke position-player-on-the-mound scenario-- can't "exclude" it as easily.

My bad. What I saw just said Fox, and the current guy was the only one I was remembered. So, I guess you couldn't exclude his numbers, if he really is a reliever. Whatever the case, my bad on the missed name. Should have looked into it deeper myself.

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My bad. What I saw just said Fox, and the current guy was the only one I was remembered. So, I guess you couldn't exclude his numbers, if he really is a reliever. Whatever the case, my bad on the missed name. Should have looked into it deeper myself.

I'm going to guess and say that other guy is a cubs fan.:scratchchinhmm: That being said, I can see how he would take your previous post and think you maybe had some insinuations in it, since this is a thread about GS, and you were obviously stating that he would be an upgrade to their pen (which I'm not disagreeing with) and you said they wouldn't make the playoffs with those three. As If to insinuate that one of them needed to be replaced in order for the cubs to make the playoffs.

Also, I agree the cubs need more pitching help than they do hitting. Granted they are not playing the best right now, but, the offense they can put out on the field is actually pretty decent on paper. Last time I checked, Soriano and Lee were alright hitters. What I want to know is where did that Theriot guy come from? :scratchchinhmm:

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