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vs. WHITE SOX, 9/07


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Apologies for being late, but holy lord in heaven it is physically painful to watch this team with RISP.

It's like they have to bat blindfolded or something. What are they doing???

Meanwhile Boston is making things look like counting to 3. They have 12 runs.

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