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Let me be Capt. Obvious. We need at least a long drive. Weits is slower than a herd of turtles stampeding through peanut butter.

"Wheels" Wieters has a very good stolen base attempt percentage for his career.

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Let me be Capt. Obvious. We need at least a long drive. Weits is slower than a herd of turtles stampeding through peanut butter.

I have actually seen a herd of turtles stampede through peanut butter and it isn't pretty. But Matt is not quite that slow...or maybe I saw exceptionally fast turtles.

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