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Dipper9 Hangout Grand Counsel

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>PSA: spending doesn't guarantee you'll win but if you won a WS I guarantee you spent. Top 10 payrolls win titles. Just a reminder <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MLB?src=hash">#MLB</a></p>? Ken Weinman (@KenWeinmanSport) <a href="
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At least someone in the Baltimore media gets it.

OMG, now you're quoting Kenny Weinman? No offense to Kenny, but his opinion means less to me than anyone on the Hangout, with a few notable exceptions.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>No moves for the Os today. Duq said maybe next week. Still more likely as a free agent</p>— Brittany Ghiroli (@Britt_Ghiroli) <a href="

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Duquette says <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Orioles?src=hash">#Orioles</a> like Dariel Alvarez better than some of the free agents available. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OriolesTalk?src=hash">#OriolesTalk</a></p>— Rich Dubroff (@RichDubroffCSN) <a href="

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Going Cheap i see.

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I love how Rule V is our main action at the Winter Meetings. Meanwhile, the Dodgers and Cubs, who also took Rule V guys, have made splash after splash to improve their teams.

It's just funny. I like DD, but he seems completely incapable of multi-tasking at these WM.

Was Nelson Cruz available at last year's winter meetings? Sure. Was he available for $8MM? No flippin' way. Duque got him in February.

The impatient / frustrated fans need to realize that DD is a master at playing chicken with the FA market. He's as good at that as he is at dumpster-diving.

In free agency it's the stupid money that gets spent first.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Source: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Tigers?src=hash">#Tigers</a> getting Alfredo Simon.</p>? Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="
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Damn, another one slipped away. Damn that cheap Peter Angelos!

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This is ridiculous. Do you really think DD was sitting around doing nothing other than prepping for the Rule 5 draft all week? That's the only thing he was focused one because he can't multi-task? I mean really, is that what you think?

If you're not writing nine-figure checks you're just screwing around drinking at the bar. There will always be fans who confuse churn with effectiveness. It's like in soccer, where players with great "work rate" (i.e. they never stop moving) are often just assumed to be really good. Or Pete Rose. If you run to first on walks you have to be great. If your main concern is image, just make sure the media sees you doing everything at 125%.

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Going Cheap i see.

I'm pretty sure Duquette's entire offseason is designed around how much it spins you up.

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Only you would think Chen was a ace.

Nope, I just let on field play dictate my satisfaction with the team.

American League

EAST W L PCT GB HOME ROAD RS RA DIFF STRK L10

x-Baltimore 96 66 .593 - 50-31 46-35 705 593 +112 Won 1 4-6

NY Yankees 84 78 .519 12 43-38 41-40 633 664 -31 Won 1 6-4

Toronto 83 79 .512 13 46-35 37-44 723 686 +37 Lost 1 6-4

Tampa Bay 77 85 .475 19 36-45 41-40 612 625 -13 Lost 1 3-7

Boston 71 91 .438 25 34-47 37-44 634 715 -81 Lost 1 5-5

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Duquette says <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Orioles?src=hash">#Orioles</a> like Dariel Alvarez better than some of the free agents available. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OriolesTalk?src=hash">#OriolesTalk</a></p>? Rich Dubroff (@RichDubroffCSN) <a href="
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Going Cheap i see.

This isn't even news. Of course they like Alvarez better than SOME of the Free Agents available. I'm sure they like him better than SOME outfielders who played all of last season in the majors too. It means absolutely nothing.

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