Define this term

[Sports Guy]

"Rushing a prospect"

How do you define it?

[Hank Scorpio]

Promoting someone who isn't mentally prepared for advanced competition?

[Leitch]

Advancing a player hastily through the system, regardless of their ability to compete at that level?

[StunninSteve]

Adam Loewen... even though they really didn't have much of a choice after signing him to a major league deal. Big mistake.

[McNulty]

Allowing the immediate needs of the big league club to outweigh the needs of the players development.

Of course, that just makes it even more subjective.

[Stotle]

Promoting a minor league prospect based on reputation, statistics or team need, rather than developmental progress.

Reputation -- hype, expectations tied to draft slot, "stuff", etc.

Statistics -- not being honest with contributing factors to positive statistical data or thoroughly/effectively analyzing said data (league, stadium, sample-size, splits, etc.)

Team Need -- hole at an above level, or desire to move a prospect closer to the ML team in the hopes of quickening a solution to a hole at the ML level

Developmental Progress -- Mechanics, mental approach, understanding of the game as played at the player's current level, maturity, idea of what the player will look like in 3-years

[wildcard]

I think if you look it up in the dictionary there is a picture of Radhames Liz.

[Sports Guy]

I think if you look it up in the dictionary there is a picture of Radhames Liz.

See, this is what I am talking about....Liz has clearly not been rushed.

[Malike]

See, this is what I am talking about....Liz has clearly not been rushed.

I agree, I dont think Liz was rushed. Just because someone isnt blowing the competition out of the water doesnt mean they were rushed. I think many believe that Liz is a front of the rotation starter because of his "stuff", but like others here I think hes destined for the Pen.

Stotle's post sum's it up nicely, IMO.

[ChrisP]

Adam Loewen... even though they really didn't have much of a choice after signing him to a major league deal. Big mistake.

Ouch...but good point.

[JTrea81]

Adam Loewen, Daniel Cabrera, Erik Bedard, Jeff Fiorentino, Hayden Penn

[Mackus]

Penn and Fiorentino were definitely rushed.

Agree that guys like Liz and Olson weren't rushed. Just because you struggle in your first MLB experience doesn't necessarily mean you need to spend more time in the minors or were rushed to the majors.

[LookinUp]

Penn and Fiorentino were definitely rushed.

Agree that guys like Liz and Olson weren't rushed. Just because you struggle in your first MLB experience doesn't necessarily mean you need to spend more time in the minors or were rushed to the majors.

I prefer to think that Fiorentino was more misplaced than rushed. Rushed assumes that one day you'll likely deserve a spot at the next level. I don't believe Fio ever had that legitimate capability.

[RLB29]

Penn and Fiorentino were definitely rushed.

Agree that guys like Liz and Olson weren't rushed. Just because you struggle in your first MLB experience doesn't necessarily mean you need to spend more time in the minors or were rushed to the majors.

Totally agree. I think the mental aspect has more to do in determining if a player was rushed. Olson and Johnson weren't ready, but they weren't rushed. They used the time as a learning experience, and came back stronger. Penn just seemed to immature and was probably rushed.

[IamtheSkip]

I prefer to think that Fiorentino was more misplaced than rushed. Rushed assumes that one day you'll likely deserve a spot at the next level. I don't believe Fio ever had that legitimate capability.

I'm calling shenanigans on that. Fiorentino was a third round draft choice, had hit well at every level he'd been at... and suddenly got called to the bigs right out of High A ball.

I'm convinced his failure is one of the reasons they've been so patient with Reimold.