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Orioles to be more active in International Free Agent Market

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16 minutes ago, Malike said:

There will be other players available between now and July 2nd of next year to sign. Players that aren't available yet.

Yeah, but none of them will generate 3,000 posts and about 160,000 page views.  I'm glad this is finally being resolved.  Everything that can be said has already been said countless times.

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I hope we sign Gaston but I'm not too sad about this. All the ratings I saw of Mesa made it seem like his ceiling was a borderline every day player at best. However, we better spend our $6,000,000 on other international prospects. 

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